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Author Photo
[edit]Can someone supply a photo of the author? --NYKenny 12:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- hehe - I found one! NYKenny 00:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Private Life
[edit]"He keeps his private life exceedingly private". Says who? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.76.151.153 (talk) 05:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
Awards section
[edit]Wouldn't the awards section work better if it gave the name of the award, and then the titles for which he has won them?
Lead dispute
[edit]Mr. 172, the article doesn't say that no one knew that Hill was King's son before he "publicly revealed his identity in 2007," or before "Variety broke his cover." Please stop removing sourced statements from the article. Doing so constitutes vandalism. Deor (talk) 12:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK, let's try to find out exactly what bee is in your bonnet, 172. On the basis of what you insist upon removing from the article, it can be concluded that you object to the following:
- "for whom he was named"
- "[chose to use a nom de plume] in 1997"
- "out of a desire to succeed based solely on his own merits"
- "After achieving a degree of independent success, Hill publicly revealed his identity in 2007 after an article the previous year in Variety broke his cover."
- What exactly in each of these bits of content troubles you? All are verifiable from the cited source; and for any of them to be removed, we need a source that calls the information into question or provides a more authoritative set of facts. Can you point us to any? Deor (talk) 00:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
The quote "out of a desire...etc" has now been put in quotation marks (assuming it did appear as stated in the VF article). If it did not, the whole sentence should be removed and restored to my earlier version, because it is not a proveable fact that a) this was Hill's motivation and b) no one knew who he was. A significant number of editors, publishers, awards judges and reviewers knew exactly who he was, although understandably, there has never been a printed article discussing this issue. Obviously the general reading public were not aware of who Hill really was, but it is important to balance the claim that Hill wished to succeed based solely on his own merits with an acknolwedgement that several key people did know who he was. For example, it could - theoretically - have had an impact upon the decisions of those same editors, publishers, awards judges and reviewers. The bottom line is that most people within the horror fraternity know that these people knew who Hill was when they reviewed / praised / and rewarded Hill's work, so when they see that Wikipedia being used to distort the actual truth by way of flattering puff, it does not reflect well upon Wikipedia. Hill's work will and should be judged on its merits regardless of who his father is; however, in the interests of clarity and balance, it should be acknowledged that some important people in the genre knew who Hill during the period of time he claims that no one actually did. Mr 172 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.19.248 (talk) 23:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Per WP:V: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that readers should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed.--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Birthdate
[edit]Many sites cite his birth year as 1974. This article states 1972. Can someone get the right year, and preferably month & day also? --Cdman882 (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- "Joe Hill was born June 4, 1972 in Bangor, Maine." (quoted from: Hill, Joe (2006). "Joe Hill: The Point of Confession". Locus: The Magazine of Science Fiction & Fantasy. vol. 57 no. 1 (whole no. 546). Oakland, CA: Locus Publications: 84. ISSN 0047-4959. ISBN 74470-75340 Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: checksum.
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ignored (help)) - The sole writing credit for the article in question is given to Mr. Hill. This may be false, as the quote comes from the intro text, but the assumption is that he wrote that text as well. hornoir (talk) 12:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
New novel
[edit]143.244.252.194, one of the core policies of Wikipedia is WP:V, which states "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." If you want to add to the article the information that a new Joe Hill novel will be published this year, all you have to do is append a reference to a reliable source that backs up that information. Without such a citation, the information will not be allowed to remain in the article, since we can't rely solely on your word for it. Deor (talk) 01:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
his accent
[edit]Saw him being interviewed on the CBC (The Hour) and thought, who is the guy from Newfoundland? didn t know a Maine accent (presumably he has a standard one - but his dad doesn t seem to have an Atlantic Canadian sounding one) had that much in common with one from Atlantic Canada. Anyway ... Mayumashu (talk) 02:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Horns Movie
[edit]He's writer of Horns (2013) movie based on his book. This should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenorb (talk • contribs) 01:07, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've added a sentence mentioning the film. (He didn't actually write the screenplay of the film, though.) Deor (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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Sleeping Beauties???
[edit]Who is the fool who put that book in his bibliography? It doesn't even link to the book, it links to a film, so double fail. Sleeping Beauties was written by Stephen King, with his other son (Hill's brother), Owen King. Joe Hill did not write or co-write this book, it needs to be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.158.19.154 (talk) 17:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Comic book vs. graphic novel
[edit]The bio's on his books use the term "graphic novel", and from what I've seen, they aren't «comic». I'd suggest making the appropriate changes ... unless Joe Hill objects %^j Jimmy Hers (talk) 22:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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