Talk:Joan (Alexander McQueen collection)

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The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 16:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the flaming finale of Joan by Alexander McQueen has been read as an image of violence, transcendence, resurrection, and resilience?

• Source:
  • Bethune, Kate. "Encyclopedia of Collections". In Wilcox (2015), pp. 303–326. (Violence)
  • Spooner, Catherine. "A Gothic Mind". In Wilcox (2015), pp. 141–158. (Transcendence/Resurrection)
  • Fairer, Robert; Wilcox, Claire (2016). Alexander McQueen: Unseen. (Violence/Resurrection)
  • Wilson, Andrew (2015). Alexander McQueen: Blood Beneath the Skin. (Resilience)

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Homeworld: Vast Reaches
  • Comment:

Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC).

• The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on the references that I cannot read. A QPQ has been completed. Ready. SL93 (talk) 00:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review. I can send screencaps of anything if anyone does want to check the sources (GBooks has Unseen and Blood Beneath, I think). I just tweaked firery -> flaming as I think it flows more nicely. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 23:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 21:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Lead

No notes.

Background

• "his friend Simon Costin to resign before the release of Joan" → could Simon use a redlink? Also, did he work at Givenchy or for McQueen's label?
  • I'm not sure he's GNG-notable, so I haven't been redlinking him. Both, kind of, McQueen worked with the same loose group whatever he was doing. But the quitting ultimately came over McQueen's shitty behavior at Givenchy

Concept and collection

• "photo-printing in Dante" → I think you could get away with another link for Dante here since (while linked in the previous section) it's only mentioned with a link in passing
  • Done
• "from the Russian imperial family, the Romanovs" → the link seems to me that it would work better over the text "the Romanovs" instead of where it is now, especially given the link is House of Romanov
  • Done
• "upon the 1918 murder of the Romanovs as inspiration" → "upon their 1918 murder", just to cut down on repetition?
  • Tweaked
• "More literally, Silversmith Sarah Harmarnee" → remove caps from "Silversmith"
  • Done
• "Bethund felt it was a reference" → who/what is Bethund?
  • Typo for Bethune, mentioned earlier
• "for battle, and possibly a nod" → remove comma
  • Done

Runway show

• "it was his second time presenting there" → since this is the first sentence of the section and McQueen himself hasn't been mentioned in a while, recommend using his name rather than "his"
  • Done
• "According to England, McQueen and his team" → give her first name here rather than later in the paragraph
  • Flipped
• "Val Garland took care of makeup" → "took care of" seems a little informal and slang-y
  • revised. Only so many ways to say "did" without sounding silly, lol
• "and Pauline Prescott, wife of then-Deputy" → Pauline's link redirects to John's (and isn't anchored to a specific section) so I'm not convinced it's needed (especially since you explain who Pauline is)
  • fair
• "Some models blond wigs left loose" → this reads oddly to me, like there's a word or two missing
  • That's because there was :P
• "Wilcox called the styling "half medieval, half futuristic", while Wilson quotes Garland" → tense shift
  • Fixed
• "91 looks were presented, including both mens and womenswear" → MOS:NUMNOTES says to avoid starting a sentence with a numeral; perhaps change to "Ninety-one"?
  • Sure

Reception

• "fashion scene, and considered" → remove comma
  • Done
• "In Gods and Kings, Thomas was effusive" → I think another mention of her first name would be helpful since it's been a while since she's been mentioned
  • Done

Analysis

• "1852 painting The Execution of Lady Jane Grey" → our article about the painting says it was completed in 1833 and doesn't make mention of 1852
  • I think I must have conflated two dates somewhere in the typing, my source does say 1833
• "Keith Lodwick, for example, asserts" → much of the previous paragraph uses past tense to describe people writing about the collection but there is a switch to present tense here
• Brown's analysis switches back to past tense
  • Fixed Lodwick so everybody's past tense now
• "point", and cited the images" → remove comma
  • Fixed
• "served as "phantasmagoria": dramatic" → the explanation of phantasmagoria is opened by a colon but closed by a comma, which reads awkwardly to me
  • Split the sentence
• "Catherine Spooner pinpointed" (past) ... "and argues that McQueen" (present)
  • Yup, fixed
• Last sentence about Figueredo also switches tense
  • Fixed also

Legacy

• "appeared in the 2022 exhibition Lee Alexander McQueen: Mind, Mythos, Muse" → any reason this has a redlink here but not in the lead?
  • No, I've linked it

Nice work as always, that's all I've got. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

• • Thanks for the review PCN02WPS, I've made the changes and responded above. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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