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Isn't in William Miller's work, nor is it provided in Kelsey Jackson Williams, "A Genealogy of the Grand Komnenoi of Trebizond", Foundations, 2 (2006), pp. 171-189 (Williams is one of the major sources that the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy website draws on). Maybe it's in Detlev Schwennicke's Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten (1978), but that needs to be verified. This is one of a number of articles on the wives of the Emperors of Trebizond that offer a name for the subject I have yet to find a reliable source for; all of the standard sources accept that history failed to record the women's names. And I hate to say this, but unless a name can be found for this woman I'm inclined to merge this article into Alexios II of Trebizond; there just isn't anything that could be written except speculation about her. -- llywrch (talk) 04:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Llywrch: Jiajaq Jaqeli is mentioned in Georgian sources so we shouldn't ignore that thus an article shouldn't merged into anything but it needs to be expanded what I'll try to do when I'll have more time. Jaqeli08:56, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Jaqeli:, do the Georgian sources provide any further information about her than her name & parentage? Even with a name, far too much in this article is duplicated in the one about Alexios. (Not that I wouldn't like a separate article on Jiajak, but as I wrote above many of the consorts of the Emperors of Trebizond in the 13th century are only names, & a couple not even that. Since there wasn't any formal office "Empress of Trebziond", having separate articles on these non-notable shadowy personages is honestly not defensible.) -- llywrch (talk) 17:43, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
She was a Cuman princess from Georgia, not an ethnic Georgian. Even her name, Jiajak, is a Cuman name meaning "flower" which is cognate to Turkish word çiçek (chichek) and Khazarian word tzitzak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.38.17 (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
