Talk:Jewish-American patronage of Chinese restaurants

About the creation of this article

This article was forked from a section on the American Chinese cuisine article. (Apparently it had already been moved over from the Chinese Chinese cuisine article where it had no place at all.) Consensus on American Chinese cuisine talk page was this information is interesting and significant, but that is a marked departure from the rest of the original article, lent undue weight to the subject in the article, and was out of proportion to the rest of the article, so should be forked off. I have done so, but the article will still need cleanup. There are concerns that large parts of the article may be quoted word-for-word from the sources, indeed the section headings sound to me as if they may have been chapter titles in the original source (which I have not read). There are also WP:POV concerns. On top of that, formatting, cleaning up the lede (probably breaking some of that information out into a History section), pictures, etc. Mmyers1976 (talk) 18:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Who disputes the neutrality and on what grounds?

So there is a neutrality tag on this page and it says to look at the talk page, yet here it says nothing. What's up with that? Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Slightly less unwieldy title

I'd like to propose a slightly less unwieldy title: Jewish American Chinese restaurant patronage. This title format could be used for other articles too, for example African American Chinese restaurant patronage appears to be a notable topic covered in reliable sources as well.--Pharos (talk) 21:13, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Less Christmas-centric

While the Christmas aspect is significant, it is more of an ironic footnote to the general Jewish American patronage of Chinese restaurants, which was particularly pronounced in early and mid-20th century, when the cuisine was not yet the general staple of the American diet it has become more recently.--Pharos (talk) 19:50, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability issue: recommend for deletion

user:Mmyers1976 split this from a larger article in 2015, justifying that action by suggesting it caused WP:Undue Weight in the American Chinese cuisine article. However, the focus of this article is primarily NYC, which itself is another form of WP:UNDUE in light of AMERICAN in the page title.

Further Tuchman and Levine is a terrible source to cite. It is pseudo academic, full of anecdotal "evidence" (i.e., vague references to "people we talked to" -- citing only a six-year-old at one point) with few stats and even fewer sources for them.

The two authors fail to explain why Chinese cuisine is more popular than Italian cuisine (hello pizza, hello spaghetti) among American Jews. The only distinguishing "evidence" seems to be "Chinese restaurants are open on Xmas". There is also a claim that lack of dairy in Chinese cuisine means a Jew can avoid mixing meat and milk, but eating pork (common in Chinese cuisine) is considered a more serious breach of kashrut. Anyway, the text here truncates the mixing aspect to "lack of dairy" which is meaningless by itself.

Better to delete this whole article and salvage a few well-supported parts, reinserting back in the original article. Martindo (talk) 07:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)