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Jewellery in the Pacific was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
October 1, 2006	Good article nominee	Not listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 24, 2006.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that jewellery in the Pacific changed drastically when missionaries began converting many Pacific nations to Christianity?

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GA failed

1. Well written? O.K. (needs copyediting)

2. Factually accurate? Fail (citations missing)

3. Broad in coverage? O. K. (history section maybe)

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Pass

Additional comments :

The first sentence Jewellery making in the Pacific started later than in other areas, due to relatively recent human settlement can already be refuted ... there were humans on Pacific Islands 30 000 BC which makes it really early.
The precise start of island jewellery-making is difficult to pinpoint, due to many of the island nations' founders migrating there from other areas, such as Tahiti. Could this be rephrased to incorporate the fact that there were nations before we have writings from there and thus, it is assumed that people lived there since the beginning of the separation of the island from Pangea.
One expects to hear about the history or the theories of the bringing of the art of jewel making on Pacific islands but there is no section pertaining only on that.
There is a bit of copyediting to be done.
The power associated with the headdresses in Papua New Guinea is phenomenal gives a point of view.
Please confort such a statement, Tribesmen may wear boar bones through their noses, very much like the typical tribal cliché people outside these cultures use, with a citation for if Westerners didn't go there (which is implied by the preceding line) how can one know about that.
Is the sentence, due to the fact that in other cultures, people who could afford jewellery were considered wealthier and more important in ancient times., true? Could we have a citation for it.

Lincher 01:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a reference under "References". Yes I know that it isn't an inline citation, but do you really want to have the same bliming citation on every paragraph?? So at the end of para 1, same citation. End of para 2, same citation. End of para 3, same citation. And so on... The footnote's section would be huge! I hate how people only allow inline citations, as who really wants what I have described above. The book I've used was very informative, hence why most of the article was based on it. Spawn Man 23:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poor, unnecessary article?

There are no other "Jewellery in x" articles - so what justifies this one?
Most of the content here is little more than poorly written and often doubtful waffle "The precise start of island jewellery-making is difficult to pinpoint...", "...jewellery is still very much untouched by outside influences, and therefore very primal..." "...parts of Borneo and Papua New Guinea, which are still unexplored by Westerners...." "...Tribesmen may wear boar bones through their noses, very much like the typical tribal cliché people outside these cultures use..."