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I have again removed the flag from the infobox. Because this article covers both human and physical geography, I am seeking a consensus of editors to determine whether flag use in the infobox is preferred or not, per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To quote the relevant text from MOS:INFOBOXFLAG: "Human geographic articles – for example settlements and administrative subdivisions – may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes; however, physical geographic articles – for example, mountains, valleys, rivers, lakes, and swamps – should not. Where a single article covers both human and physical geographic subjects (e.g. Manhattan), or where the status of the territory is subject to a political dispute, the consensus of editors at that article will determine whether flag use in the infobox is preferred or not." The article for Manhattan -- the example provided for a place that has the joint characteristics of human and physical geography -- has flags for the US, New York State and New York City, and Manhattan meets the good article standard. Featured articles for Boston, Houston, San Francisco and Seattle also use flags in their infoboxes. As a settlement with no defined area or boundaries, Jericho is most certainly a human geographic feature; it clearly neither covers both human and physical geographic subjects nor is it a subject of a political dispute. Feel free to make your case that it should be removed, just let me know where you are seeking this consensus. Alansohn (talk) 22:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Let us know if you have any response to the fact that this article is not one that "covers both human and physical geography". There is no consensus supporting removal. If you won't be seeking a consensus elsewhere to support your interpretation, I will be happy to restore the deleted content after today. Alansohn (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I believe the flags cause some clutter, IMO. The top part of that section of MOS:INFOBOXFLAG states that they can be distracting to the reader, which I agree with. Several places in surrounding states, such as PA (Indiana, Pennsylvania for example), DE (Milford, Delaware) and NY (Hempstead, New York), but with the exception of big cities, don't use them and our region should remain consistent with the others, stated here. I think they should not be included in non-major cities. Tinton5 (talk) 19:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I can go either way on this, but falling to the lowest standard used by municipal articles in other states seems to be a rather weak argument for removing the flags; nor does Magnolia677 help his cause by misrepresenting MOS:INFOBOXFLAG and incorrectly describing Jericho as an article that "covers both human and physical geography". Who started adding these flags in New Jersey in the first place? Alansohn (talk) 20:10, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think you started to add them? Then I did after seeing them, but then had a second opinion. Many are still left without them. Tinton5 (talk) 21:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
