Talk:Jung (Korean surname)

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On 4 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jung (Korean surname). The result of the discussion was Moved.

Alternate hanja?

Can it also be spelled 正? Badagnani (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is a quite late response. Anyway, the answer is no. -- (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to Jeong (surname). Jenks24 (talk) 05:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chung (Korean surname) → Jeong (surname) – or Jung (Korean surname), per WP:UCN. There are three competing spellings for this surname, and strong evidence that "Chung" is not the most common one. See below. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 13:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Extended rationale Both Jeong and Jung are more than four times as common as Chung for spelling the surname 정, according to the National Institute of the Korean Language's study of passport applications from 2007 (cited at Chung (Korean surname)#Latin-alphabet spelling). "Jung" has a lead of a 11 percentage points over "Jeong" in that data, but given that they are almost tied I think it's preferable to follow WP:NC-KO and use Revised Romanisation in that case. Among Wikipedia articles, after updating the list in this article I count 86 Chungs, 73 Jeongs, and 142 Jungs. (Some of the Jeongs may be spelled that way only due to WP:NC-KO, but I assume the articles about Chungs and Jungs are for the most part located at their actual most-common spellings.)

So I think Jung vs. Jeong may be debatable and I'm open to either title, but I don't see any case for retaining the present title. Also note that Jung (Korean given name) exists (which is also spelled any way the surname can be spelled), so any proposed parenthetical disambiguator needs to be sufficient to distinguish the two topics. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 13:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Especially, if usage is reasonably close as you state, go with the standard Jeong. "Jung" is ambiguous as it also is the Revised Romanization of the hangul 중 which, although not a surname, appears in many Korean names, and "Jung" is also used as a nonstandard romanization of 증 Jeung. However, note also that "Chung" is historically more common so many encyclopedically notable figures use this spelling.

Strictly speaking, this article is about the surname itself and not merely a poll or list of people with the name. Therefore, go with a standard spelling (either current McCune–Reischauer Chŏng or the Wikipedia preferred Revised Romanization Jeong) rather than an ad hoc ambiguous form. Support a move to Jeong (surname), but oppose a move to Jung (Korean surname). — AjaxSmack 18:59, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 4 August 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 21:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jeong (surname) → Jung (Korean surname) – The WP:COMMONNAME spelling for the name, as per the current text on this article (see also Korean name#Romanization and pronunciation for the complete 2007 study), and this 2015 news article says Jung is 62.22% and Jeong is 28.25%. I see the previous discussion, but while the split was pretty close (48.6% vs 37%) in 2007, by 2015 the gap was much more significant. toobigtokale (talk) 22:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support - South Korean names rarely follow RR in English (or else we would have the last names "I", "Gim", and "Choe" instead of the commonly used Lee, Kim, and Choi). :3 F4U (they /it) 14:45, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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