Talk:Jena Rose

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Starting with notability

Ideally, she would meet the notability as a musician criteria. Optionally, there are a number of ways to meet general notability criteria. At a glance of the article, I'm not seeing any of the accomplishments as a musician, but there's probably enough publicity for general notability. I've requesting help from WikiProject Musicians: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Musicians#New_article.2C_Jena_Rose.2C_needs_help --Ronz (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We never got a response, nor a proper declaration for the paid editing.

While there are new references, it's not clear if any demonstrate notability. If there's something that isn't an announcement or basic music publication information, please point it out. --Ronz (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to meet the criteria. It seems like there are some notable write-ups, like from HuffPo and Billboard. She also has a few albums as well as a number of songs on Billboard charts in the last year. Is that not enough to take off the tags? --'loneagain 14:25, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it looks like the Billboard Dance Club Songs chart suffices. --Ronz (talk) 00:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Citations

I'm curious about the additional citations tag (I'm also curious about the other tag, but I'm not sure how that is handled). Is the issue that there aren't enough links? Or are some links just not any good? 'loneagain (talk) 20:28, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies and biographical information require reliable, independent, high-quality references. The sources overall are rather poor: interviews and public relations pieces. Maybe I'm overlooking something?

The solution is to either find better sources, or trim back the article to what is clearly encyclopedic in nature. --Ronz (talk) 21:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, that makes sense. Some of these are just to "video premier" links, and those are clearly junk. I've cut a bunch of the worst of them and cut out a bunch of info that wasn't an accomplishment of note. Hopefully that's better now.'loneagain (talk) 02:50, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks much better. I took a quick look over everything and removed some interviews and announcements. --Ronz (talk) 18:45, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Does it make sense to take the tags down now? 'loneagain (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article would be much better off if someone would spend more time finding better references and reworking the article around them. --Ronz (talk) 21:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like your standards are too high on this one. Most of the links are to Billboard or mags, which is respectable enough. And there's a lot of stuff out there. Plus, one of the tags has nothing to do with verification. 'loneagain (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP states, We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources.. --Ronz (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Response to third opinion request:

The additional citations tag is still appropriate, as there are still some statements that are not supported by reliable sources. [1] is not generally considered reliable, and [2] is an interview (which means that the statement By 12, she performed at venues around the Dallas area and won numerous awards during this period in her age group, such as Overall Best Musician twice from Septien Entertainment Group Commercial Artist Showcase, and once from the 2013 Master Showcase is sourced only to the subject's own words). I recommend adding further sources to the article before removing the tag. Brad v 04:19, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]