Talk:Jelena Đurović

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This page looks like a personal CV rather than a Wikipedia article (e.g. quoting a 6 month course the subject has taken as something of importance; what the subject "likes to do" etc.), and it needs to be wikified.

(Annabelleigh, 23rd Oct 2009; 00:29 UST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annabelleigh (talk • contribs) 00:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, this looks like unabridged self-promotion of an unimportant individual that no one has ever heard about.

Opinions, anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.236.147.118 (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article claims this individual to be the "Chairwoman of OJC SEE", but the organization does not exist. Also, "As a journalist, she works as film and TV critic", but she doesn't work for any notable media outlets, apart from her own blog, which is practically unknown but nevertheless advertised here. And her "novels" are self-published.151.47.164.107 (talk) 15:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I have fixed two irritating typos in the above post: PamD 21:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: She is further promoting this article in her Twitter bio, indicating that she treats the page as her CV. It either needs serious work or should perhaps even be deleted — IмSтevan ^talk 11:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is outrageous self-promotion scribble by a "nobody", an anonymous girl who self-published a booklet and volunteered at a youth radio, and who tels us that she is "familiar with" certain pop groups, or that she wrote a graduation paper in order to graduate.

I see no reason for this personal CV to be included in Wikipedia at all, but the amount of text given to her is unbelievable. Check Serbian Wikipaedia for some genuine writers from Serbia whom you don't even mention in Wikipaedia in English.

Kalinikhta (talk) 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC) In a different environment such a derogatory and anonymous comments would not warrant one's reaction but Wikipedia is edited by its users, including malicious and anonymous ones, and it has to be respected (if not agreed with). I tried to take some positive points from the above comment and to apply them to the article (I've shortened some sections of the article recognizing the fact that not all the information was important or even relevant). The rest of the comment does require a reaction in order to protect the person represented in the article, as well as me, the author of the article.[reply]

1. Calling somebody "a nobody" and doing it anonymously tells us a lot about the author of the comment but little, or nothing, about the person at which the comment is directed. Jelena is published (not self-published, although that would not really make any difference) author of a ground-braking book (at least in Serbian language). Her book is, for example, included in the Slavic and Eastern European Collections at UC Berkeley, along with numerous other books from Serbia.

2. She is a journalist with dozens of articles published in specialized magazines but she also covered culture and art for dailies like Glas Javnosti, which is, I believe, the second daily newspaper in Serbia by circulation. In UK terms, for example, it would be like writing for The Independent (although I, by no mean, want to compare these two papers).

3. Studio B is a 60 year old radio station in Belgrade with hundreds of employees and Novi Radio Beograd is fairly new radio station which Jelena helped establish. Calling either of these a "youth" radio is clearly malicious, not just towards Jelena but towards thousands of people who worked there over many years.

4. She is involved in Serbian politics on the very liberal side of the Serbian political spectrum. She was on those same positions in mid-nineties during the Slobodan Milošević era and the fact that she heavily criticized cultural policy of his regime in her graduation paper deserves a notion. I do not expect everybody to understand the exact magnitude of this but people who know a little about totalitarian regimes in general would be able to appreciate this fact.

All of the above mentioned facts are covered in the article as I believe they are important to give readers a comprehensive picture of Jelena's background and activities.

In the end, I do agree with the above comment that there are many Serbian authors who are not properly represented on Wikipedia but this should, by no mean, be the reason to criticize those who are. In the two articles that I've created on English Wikipedia I tried to give as much relevant information as possible. If one believes that some of the information is irrelevant or does not comply with Wikipedia's standards, I will be more than happy to improve or help improve those articles.

Last edited at 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 19:45, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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