Talk:Jefferson Davis/Archive 3

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Presidential library link

Thoughts on removing the "presidential library" link in the infobox? Unlike the actual US presidents, it's not run by the US government, rather by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and is openly supportive of the Lost Cause myth, which I understand we're trying to dial back on in in the FA review. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Krisgabwoosh, I think your point is well-taken, and I deleted the link from the infobox. Wtfiv (talk) 02:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Not particular objections from me, either. I'm largely of the opinion that such links are infobox clutter in presidential aritcles as well, and should be relegated to the externals links. FWIW, this is the only presidential library my parents took me to as a kid. Hog Farm _Talk 02:31, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Image of "Improved" version of Davis Statue

Synotia I moved the "improved" version of the Davis Statue to the List of memorials to Jefferson Davis article, where it fits in with the memorials. If you think an image of one of the "improved" statues should go here, we could perhaps replace the gravesite statue with a close-up of an example, like the pulled-down Richmond statue. Wtfiv (talk) 21:14, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I see your message only now. An image should be put that illustrates how controversial these memorials are. If you have something better, go for it, but it should be included. Synotia (moan) 11:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Almost 2 months have passed and you haven't proposed something new so I'll just put it back Synotia (moan) 12:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

My own feeling is that I don't think it belongs here as this is about Davis and not his monuments. The image was added to images. I don't have anything better to add, but still don't think this one should go here. Let's see if others weigh in. Wtfiv (talk) 02:24, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

this is about Davis and not his monuments

Is it vandalized just because they don't like the statue's design? Synotia (moan) 08:05, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Of course not, but the memorials article is where the focus of where the responses to his memorialization in public spaces lies. And that article more directly addresses the image. Wtfiv (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

and a number of the memorials created in his honor throughout the country have been removed.

it should say throughout the United States, not every reader is thinking of your country as "the country" lmao 2A00:801:79A:DD76:B869:953:2568:803F (talk) 13:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Done! Wtfiv (talk) 18:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Hyperlink to Franklin Pierce is wrong and year is wrong

See the intro: The hyperlink to president pierce is linked to the tv show MASH. It also says thatvhsi administration ended in 1847 instead of 1857 2603:7000:44F0:62C0:98BD:B691:21E3:8323 (talk) 08:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Problem in lead fixed. Fortunately, main text aligns.Thanks! Wtfiv (talk) 09:25, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Grammar Error

and his moderate approach to secession that may be able to persuade undecided Southerners.

Should read something like:

"and his moderate approach to secession, which Confederate leaders thought might persuade undecided Southerners to their cause."

or if you want to keep it in passive voice:

"and a moderate approach to secession that was deemed likely to persuade undecided Southerners" 2600:1700:5B2C:A090:B932:D75C:BFED:EDE6 (talk) 21:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

 Fixed I changed it to "which Confederate leaders thought might persuade undecided Southerners to support their cause." Thanks for pointing this out. Carlstak (talk) 01:09, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

Correcting birth dates of two youngest children: William was born 1861 (not 1864); Varina was born 1864 (not 1872). William Howell, born 1861, who died of diphtheria at age 10;[63] and Varina Anne, born 1864, who remained single and lived to be 34.[64] 73.137.166.113 (talk) 14:29, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done, verified per references already provided in article Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 15:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2024

change "and an argument for the righteousness of succession" to "and an argument for the righteousness of secession." LitigiousOx (talk) 23:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Done, thanks. Drmies (talk) 23:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

allegiance

It disturbs me greatly that under “Allegiance” it says “United States”, that is BS. He was sworn and leader of the Confederacy AGAINST the US. He fought the Union. He was pro-slavery. 2601:602:400:FEC0:4D96:7E34:AEC1:81C7 (talk) 03:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

"He fought the Union. He was pro-slavery." So were several of the Union states, the so-called border states (Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri, and West Virginia). And Davis served the United States in the Black Hawk War and the Mexican-American War. Dimadick (talk) 05:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)