Talk:Jeff Ott

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Does anyone know when he was born?

Not specifically, but according to his MySpace profile, he is 36. --Chuck 00:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna guess June 24, 1970 based on username "fifteen62470"[1] Hellfroze (talk) 09:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rape

I've heard something about him admitting that he comitted rape, but wasn't incarcerated for it. Apparently, it is in one of his books. Can someone confirm/deny this?

--El matt 21:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have his "My World" book on hand, but he makes mention in it of an incident when he was younger of a girl he had sex with while either she was intoxicated or they both were.. He says something to the effect that in retrospect he "realizes" maybe not that he raped her but that it wasn't entirely consensual. Whether or not that could be considered rape or is anything other than the guilty lament of a former alcoholic / drug addict and occasional self-hating white male is anyone's guess, though. 152.163.100.135 00:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have the original "My World" zines on hand, and he describes an incident in which he explicity describes one incident in which he continues to have make advances towards a woman after she says no, culiminating eventually in non-consensual intercourse. He is pretty clear about considering this rape, and in later issues of the My World zine which aren't in the book he discusses the process of making amends with two women he has sexually abused. 99.130.118.92 (talk) 01:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He talks about it some here 207.172.212.174 (talk) 18:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

there's a lot of good pictures on the skatedork site and elsewhere, i'd put one up but i'm not a registered user. someone do it or else i get to it in like a 4 months. look heres the link

http://www.skatedork.org/fifteen/pictures/chain5.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.251.97 (talk) 22:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposition for elimination

This proposal for removal b.s. is absolutely congruent with corporatism and the demands of private interest which is what everything Wikipedia should have nothing to do with but rather with the TRUTH. Fifteen and Jeff Ott especially has contributed to the zeitgeist and punk rock more than say Green Day who, because of public and even more so private interest, Wiki admins wouldn't think twice about having a page for them, who by the way, were banned from Gilman Street not because they decided to sign to a major label but because their values went with it. I don't need to improve the page to justify its existence. You need to improve your ideals on who and what are important to HISTORY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soco79 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did some work on the Jeff Ott and Fifteen articles. Both could still use some clean up. Ways that editors can help:

More biographical info on Ott and band members, supported by good sources (books, liner notes, online or print interviews, with links)
Better discographical information, also supported by good referential sources
Check for grammar, punctuation, and redundant information, often the result of contributions from multiple editors
Photos that are not copywritten and therefore free to be included on Wikipedia

Help do these things and this articles will be more than just stub or start-class. Morganfitzp (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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