Talk:Jean Charest
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Affaire Elsie Lefebvre
[edit]I have reverted the last edit. The word that Charest used was chienne,, i.e., a female dog, or "bitch". See Radio Canada. Ground Zero 14:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Also, I have removed the list of Cabinet ministers, which belongs, and appears, at Executive Council of Quebec. Ground Zero 14:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Honorable
[edit]Should we leave "The Honorable" in? This custom is not that common in Quebec, especially for a Premier of Quebec. Maybe because of the strong equalitarian and republican spirit in Quebec. The other articles for Premiers of Quebec do not have this title. --Liberlogos 4 July 2005 04:31 (UTC)
- I guess if it is part of his official title, it should be include no matter if it is commnly used or not.
- Regarding your comment, does this mean that english language media in canada commonly refer to politicians by preceeding their name with "the honourable", "the right honourable" and the like ? Does it extend to everyday speech ? (obviously, I wouldn't know). --Marc pasquin 16:23, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- A somewhat belated answer to Marc...not really. If there's an occasion, it'll be printed on the invitations/programs as "The Hon. Rory McTory" or whatever, but it's not used in everyday English.Habsfannova 02:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Charest is The Honourable by virtue of having been a federal cabinet minister and thus is a member of the Queen's Privy Council of Canada. As for Marc's question, no, the media doesn't usually refer to politicians that way.Homey 03:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- This is addressed in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes. The conclusion is that honorifics can be referenced in the text, but should not be used in the first instance. --Saforrest 06:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
"John" Charest?
[edit]Anyone have an article about the whole "John/Jean" thing? His parliament page lists him as Jean, and they usually use full names.Habsfannova 17:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- A well-known story tells that Father Moisan, that christened Charest, wrote "John" on the act of baptism despite that he had been told to write "Jean" (Henri Motte, Monique Guillot, "Jean Charest, l'homme des défis", Montréal, Le Griot éditeur, 1997). However, Claude "Red" Charest, the father of the premier, gave a different version. As his wife is Irish and was speaking mostly English, he asserts that she must have told Father Moisan "Name him John James", since Father Moisan was perfectly bilingual. Indeed, he himself had been calling his son "Jean" until Charest received his Law School diploma. (André Pratte, "L'énigme Charest", Les éditions du Boréal, 1998) J.P. Demers 00:11, Oct 9, 2006
Deleted "The vast majority of French Quebecers are not aware that his legal name is not Jean." Cite a source on this if you want to revive it. Cory.willis 03:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
ADQ: ? seats
[edit]- "In the 2007 election, the Liberals won 48 seats, forming a minority government in a near three-way-split of votes and seats. (PLQ: 48 seat, ADQ: seats, PQ :36 seats) Mr. Charest won his own riding of Sherbrooke with a majority of 1332 votes. In 2003 he obtained a majority of 2597 votes while in 1998, he received a majority of 907 votes."
How many seats did the ADQ win? --Mayfare 00:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Order of Merit of Bavaria
[edit]Jean Charest received the Order of Merit of Bavaria [1]. If anyone finds a goood spot to include it, go for it. Blur4760 01:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Assessment
[edit]I have assessed this as B class given its level of detail and organization, although it requires more referencing and in-line citations, especially since it's an article about a current politician. I have assessed this as low importance, as I do not feel that many people outside of Canada would be familiar with the subject of the article, despite the fact that he is the current premier. Cheers, CP 16:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Recent edits by IPs in the 65.94.xx.xx range
[edit]Someone that should read WP:SOAP keep s changing Mr. Charest's nationality and birthplace from being Canada to QUebec. It seems to me to be pretty clear the Mr. Charest is a Canadian citizen and was born in Quebec. Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
The Picture
[edit]I think it would be more apropriate for this page to have a more official picture as the present one could be interpreted in different ways which may not be correct for such an official subject. I would suggest this one: http://www.premier-ministre.gouv.qc.ca/premier-ministre/biographie.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.122.36.121 (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sadly, the official pictures of Quebec politicians are not available under conditions compatible with Wikipedia's image use policy. Bouchecl (talk) 00:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think the picture of Jean Charest in the french article would be the best available choice.--Riseabovethesky (talk) 18:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Possible vandalism
[edit]Re Jean Charest#Profile. Anyone who can idenitfy User:70.29.141.16 User talk:70.29.141.16 may want to contact the Montreal Police at Info-Crime: 514 393-1133 as this spurious contributor may well be the same "clown" who hacked into the web page of Le Devoir. Peter Horn User talk 15:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like a need for an administrator is approaching. Atomician (talk) 16:15, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
The joke in the headline?
[edit]Is that line really pertinent? I really don't see what it is doing at the top :
Charest has joked that his political obituary has been written so many times that he has lost count.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.203.32.45 (talk) 17:46, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
PST was raised, this article says otherwise.
[edit]"They did, however, refrain from raising the Provincial Sales Tax to make up for the loss of revenue caused by the decision of the federal government to reduce the Goods and Services Tax to 5%." Sorry, that is not true, provincial sales tax was definitely raised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.78.189 (talk) 12:45, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Jean Charest's photo
[edit]I'm sure we can grab some photos from the recent event in Quebec... because this photo makes him look awful. Can we find a better photo, and change it? Wikipageedittor099 14:34, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Even if we don't find a photo from the Quebec event, the 2017 photo is the most recent one and looks like a portrait. Whereas this current one I agree looks awful. That's why I support Option B. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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Option A (current; 2010)
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Option B (2017)
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Option C (2012)
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Option D (2010)
- Voting Option C, as it is the only photo where he does not look like a blobfish. —WildComet talk 21:40, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- LOL! I agree personally. Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 21:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Option B makes him look like a villain... Ak-eater06 (talk) 21:58, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think Option A or B are fine for this article. A is a better photo, and here the fact that it is older, and seems to be taken during stampede doesn't really matter. There is a similar conversation happening at Talk:2022 Conservative Party of Canada leadership election#Additional photos to consider, if appropriate. There in my view Option B is far preferable because it is closer to the date of the 2022 election and is more fitting with the theme of the other candidate photos already there (and which it appears beside). I do not see an reason though why we could not decide to use one photograph for this article and a different one on the 2022 election article page.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- I would agree with @Darryl Kerrigan. I don't believe the date of a photo matters for a page of one person, and A is the best one imo. I think date of photos is only relevant when it's about a current event (ie. the 2022 leadership election). Just look at the wikipedia page for Joe Clark. It's definitely an older photo, and there would certainly be more recent options available. You can always add more recent photos in relevant sections of the rest of the page. RoyalObserver (talk) 09:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- What do we think about this photo?
- Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Does it have the proper license and not copyvio? I know that recently the Conservative leadership candidates have had many images uploaded and eventually deleted because of them being copyvio. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- It was a photo I took from a video of an interview. It does have the proper licensing, I believe. Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Does it have the proper license and not copyvio? I know that recently the Conservative leadership candidates have had many images uploaded and eventually deleted because of them being copyvio. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I would agree with @Darryl Kerrigan. I don't believe the date of a photo matters for a page of one person, and A is the best one imo. I think date of photos is only relevant when it's about a current event (ie. the 2022 leadership election). Just look at the wikipedia page for Joe Clark. It's definitely an older photo, and there would certainly be more recent options available. You can always add more recent photos in relevant sections of the rest of the page. RoyalObserver (talk) 09:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think Option A or B are fine for this article. A is a better photo, and here the fact that it is older, and seems to be taken during stampede doesn't really matter. There is a similar conversation happening at Talk:2022 Conservative Party of Canada leadership election#Additional photos to consider, if appropriate. There in my view Option B is far preferable because it is closer to the date of the 2022 election and is more fitting with the theme of the other candidate photos already there (and which it appears beside). I do not see an reason though why we could not decide to use one photograph for this article and a different one on the 2022 election article page.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Option B makes him look like a villain... Ak-eater06 (talk) 21:58, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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