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Instead of disputing over, who should have the ownership of the poet, how about taking inspiration from his life, and especially from his epic work, the Gita Govinda, which talks about divine love, and Bhakti, and how can divine love be possible, without experiencing love and Oneness with all.

Peace! (Ekabhishek (talk) 14:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC))

This is an encyclopedia for Christ's sake, not a place for religious sermons - even indirect ones. "Ownership" is not in question, but historical facts are. One should adhere to historical authenticity, not talk about "inspirations" and "divine love" and "Oneness".

On a related note, the insertion of the "Bhagat Jaidev" portions has completely destroyed this otherwise well-written article. I am considering deleting it. Jayadeva had very little to do with Sikhism inspite of some of his verses appearing in the GGS. He was a Sanskrit lyricist from Puri, Orissa. Sikh allegories about his childhood should not make up paragraphs and sections, but single lines.

70.179.144.114 (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I fully agree. The article looks overtly religious. It should be neutral. Bhagat Jaidev allegories should be minimal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.148.226 (talk) 23:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Can not tag to a book published in 1977..its been 35 years or more...and history has changed since then...cheers to all sidekicks here!.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.153.155 (talk) 01:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC) <<--! Cannot be referred to some book published by unknown author Barabara Miller in 1977-->>

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Works of Jayadeva

I am working on that article. Jayadeva is too important to be a single entry. Please don't merge it here. SDas (talk) 00:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

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This is an interesting and important article but it needs editing and needs to be condensced. Obviously Bhagat Jaidev was important, but this is a little to lauditory. Needs references. I have added it to the Sikhism template and done preliminary revisions, but more is needed. Seth J. Frantzman 19:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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Rich Farmbrough, 19:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC).

NPOV issues

Jayadeva, Jayadeva in Sikhism and Jayadeva birth controversy all provide a POV position on his birthplace. Now it is likely correct[1] but it is disputed. I'm not convinced that in a dispute between whether he was born in Orissa and Bengal we should use official Orissa government sources. See also the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Jayadeva. Dougweller (talk) 05:49, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

It is clearly wrong to assert in this main article that he was definitely born in Orissa, as we currently do. Providing a link to the "birth controversy" article is not some sort of get-out clause because it implies that we have made a determination of the controversy ourselves for the purpose of this main article. We are not permitted to make such determinations. For an extremely brief, tertiary overview, see page 212 of this. (Probably of no use as a source but it does succinctly demonstrate the issues). - Sitush (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

No. We can't use orissa government sources as reliable sources. The articles are written by information officers in the PR department of the government of Orissa, so they are not scholarly sources. On further research, it appears that the birthplace of Jayadeva is uncertain. The definitive work is that of Suniti Chatterjee who identified Kenduli, Bengal as his birthplace but, as this [2] source says, there are rival claims from Orissa and Mithila. I guess our article should say something along those lines (I can't work on it for a while). I agree with Sitush that linking to the controversy creates the impression that there is a controversy which is not correct. In scholarly work, all that there appears to be is some uncertainty and that is easily handled by a couple of lines in this article. --regentspark (comment) 16:23, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

The links provided by Orissa Review are not from the PR sources. People like Dr. Ajit Tripathy is a doctorate in literature and he currently is the Election Commissioner of Odisha. Odisha government has also issued a stamp to commemorate Jayadeva. The work by Suniti Chatterjee cannot be taken as a basis for Jayadeva's birth place as it has long being rebuked by eminent scholars like Padmashri Satya Narayan Rajguru and others. So please stop glossing over the fact that he was born somewhere else and not in Kenduli Sasan, Orissa. Jayadeva is gitagovinda wrote that he was from Kendubilva. Kendu - means kendu tree and Bilva means Bel tree. It is very commonly seem near Kenduli Sasan in Puri where as there was no Kendu and Bel trees found near the place which is falsely claimed as Kenduli in Birbhum. Reference to Miller's cannot be given as it was written in the early 1980's and it was not scholarly. She didn't do a research on Jayadeva's origin. --Arjyap (talk) 09:28, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

You need to read WP:NPOV. We can't state that this is a settled issue. And yo shouldn't remove sources onthe basis that you disagree with them. See WP:RS. The article needs to make it clear that there has been and is a dispute -we can't take sides. I have no stake in this at all - I'm not Indian and have no connections with Orissa or Bengal, I'm just trying to keep this article balanced. Dougweller (talk) 11:12, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

If it has been repeatedly published through journals from Orissa State Museum, ASI & Orissa Government that Jayadeva was born in Orissa. Let us accept that for now, the issue is settled. Let there be substantial evidence from the Bengali scholars. But for now we should believe that Jayadeva is from Orissa. If you are not an Indian you should accept the facts given by the Orissa Government. It is a government source and backed by Archaeological Survey of India with manuscripts on copper plates etc. I have read the WO:NPOVand I fully comply. --Arjyap (talk) 11:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Dispute over birthplace not settled

For instance, William M. Reddy. William T. Laprade Professor of History and Professor of Cultural Anthropology in his 2012 book Longing and Sexuality in Europe, South Asia, and Japan, 900-1200 CE writes "Scholars are still divided about who he was and where he lived."[3]. That alone is enough evidence that we cannot state as fact that the dispute is over and everyone agrees. Dougweller (talk) 11:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

This is not a research paper from William M. Reddy. He is a professor and is probably referring to few old books which he might have access to from various sources. He states that Thomas Donaldson has given some evidences that Jayadeva is born in Orissa. There is no evidence by any scholar or archaeologist that Jayadeva was born in Bengal. Rather there are many evidences recently found by ASI and Orissa State Museum. I think you should not be neutral when there are substantial evidences.--Arjyap (talk) 11:53, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

(ec) I agree with Dougweller. From the sources we've seen, only indirect information relating to his birthplace and his life are available and, clearly, it is not possible to establish any of his life events with certainty. The way the article currently states the position seems fair to me. We've laid out the alternative views and stated that the Orissa location is more probable. We can't really do better than that. --regentspark (comment) 11:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

@Ariyap - do you have any idea how insulting you are being to Professor Reddy? He's a scholar and an expert in this field, and you have no idea what he's read. NPOV is not an optional policy. We cannot call this a settled debate. Jayadeva birth controversy is a real POV mess. Dougweller (talk) 13:22, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

@Dougweller - You don't know who you are talking to even. I am a member of the Jaydeva Foundation and the member of Gita Govinda society of the Utkal University of Culture. I have been researching on Jayadeva for 6 years. And I report to the Odisha Secretariat under a Indian Civil Service - Secretary. I don't understand if you are not an Indian why do you have to be so overwhelmed with my posts. Please refrain from glossing of the fact that Jayadeva was from some where else than Kenduli Sasan as it is an established fact and let me tell you since 1980's we have been reading this in our Highschools where it was a non ambigous fact that Jayadeva was from Odisha. I found it so plagiarized here. I doub't if you are at all from outside of India. Please send your credentials if you want to prove the authenticity of your research. I am no way insulting Professor Reddy. I have known that he is a doctorate in European studies and French History and not Indian History. I am just being factual. Archaeological Survey of India is more trusted than some professor from Duke University. Even he has been himself not sure which is the right source of information. He is stating references in a book which is not a research paper and not a peer reviewed thesis paper. By not believing Padmashrees Satyanarayan Rajguru, Thomas E. Donaldson, Dr. Sukumar Sen,Dr.Kedarnath Mohapatra- eminent historian, Nilamani Mishra, Dr. Bhagaban Panda, Dr. Kanhu Charan Mishra, Dr. Nagendranath Pradhan, Dr. Satyakam Sengupta and Dr. Ashis Chakravarti you are plagiarizing the content and proven facts. You can visit Orissa State Museum for more facts. There you can get Madhana Patnaik's Vaishnava Lilamrita. You can visit to Jagannath Puri for the manuscripts inside the temple. Not sure if you would be allowed because you are a Christian and only Hindus are allowed. You can request some scholar and a historian only with a doctorate in Indian history and manuscripts or similar credentials.You can visit Kenduli Sasan as well. Although the Govt. Of Odisha, a sovereign state has established that it is the birth place of Jayadeva why are you so personal. Please tell me one reason. This guy regentsparks is from WB. I have been following him for a long time. He has been showing off his alpha behavior more often(typical from that region). Please refrain from giving non-factual and un-researched facts. Don't give references to any books. As there are enough peer reviews and research papers available in the government websites and in Orissa State Museum. I quiet writing these words. If you have time you can meet me at Bhubaneswar, Utkal University of Culture campus. Everyone knows me. I am a fellow and a MPhil in Indian History and Orissa Culture from the same University and can be reached easily. And @regeantspark - You seem to be a bengali from Kolkata. Please let me know how I can buy you a ticket to bhubaneswar and you can visit Puri, Kenduli and Orissa State Museum and few of the goverment officals and scholars at the secretariat. I will be happy to do so. Please refrain from being Parochial and accept facts from government agencies that are more trusted than mere university professors. If there were any contest there would have been some contradicting research paper from West Bengal --Arjyap (talk) 18:20, 20 October 2013 (UTC)--Arjyap (talk) 17:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a Christian, but that is irrelevant. What I now have to do is ask you not to make major edits to the article as you have a clear conflict of interest - please see WP:COI. If you are going to argue that Reddy is not a reliable source by our criteria you need to do that at WP:RSN. You are new so you won't know what we consider reliable (by our definition which will differ from yours) and what isn't. Sadly, some government agencies and their staff are driven by nationalism. That's a fact. That doesn't make them more trustworthy than University professors who have nothing at stake and no reason not to be impartial. Of course, if you can show me Orissa officials who have turned around and said "No, that has nothing to do with Orissa, those who said it did were wrong" then I might be more willing to trust them.

You've accused me of plagiarizing content. That's a pretty serious charge and I expect you to show exactly what content I've plagiarized. Dougweller (talk) 18:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Arjyap, please don't personalize the discussion. If you continue to attach labels and motives to other editors, you will be blocked. Nothing you write here is convincing enough to change the text in the article. Your sources, written by government officials, are atrocious and unacceptable. You also need to read WP:COI and, for good measure, you might want to peruse WP:TLDR as well. Good luck. --regentspark (comment) 18:44, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

@Dougweller You can let me know where you sourced the information that gives evidence to the fact of Jayadeva is born in Bengal? When it is acknowledged by Bengali Historians and Oriya Historians, why do you base you facts on mere text books with no scholarly backing. Has Dr.Prof. William Reddy published a research paper? Or has it been endorsed by govt. of any sovereign state? I m satisfied with the page as I do not care. Most of India believe he is born in Kenduli Sasan, Puri and a brahmin is mostly born in a sasan and not a desert like Birbhum where there are very few Brahmin families. If you red Gita Govinda you will have context of mahodadhi which is only near Puri and not in Birbhum. Laxmasen was ruling after 100 years after Jayadeva's era. How can the Goswami's find something written after 600 years of Bhaktiar Khilji's destruction of the palace. But on the contrarary you cna find it in Kenduli Sasan and Sri Jagannath Temple inscription. Sri Chaitanya's era was the only era - few years when Bengal got exposed to Vaishnavism. How can his Goswami's claim after 500 years that hey saw Jayadeva written in the walls of Laxmansen. Laxmanasen was a weaker King than Choda Ganga Dev as well. And there were no eveidences of courtesan and poets on walls of palaces anywhere in the history of West bengal and India. I have given you enough reasons to establish the fact that Jayadeva is born in Puri. Being an outsider you are plagarizing the facts. You can meet me at Utkal University please. How can a fact of history be atrocious? Can you please explain?And that to from Chief Secretary of Odisha State. Are you more illustrious? Do you hold a government position or any scholarly report? Either you are a novice or an internet enthusiast. Please refer to researched Journals. You are welcome to Utkal University of Culture. We don't publish articles on wiki as we don't recognize it as a preferred source. We have our own National Informatics Center website.I know bengalis have a parochial attitude. You can let me know you source. Please make sure it is recent and not a decade old. We don't accept such excerpts. I am an official of Odisha government and I report to Odisha secretariat. If you can't visit the Odisha secretariat than no point arguing. I am not new to wiki and I know it is not a reliable source either. And Dougweller is not a Indian or a Hindu name. You can block me. But that won't prove Jayadeva was born elsewhere. We in Indian exercise the freedom of speech.--Arjyap (talk) 19:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

In many countries the government does not have a role in endorsing what scholarly works on history or archaeology are official. And in my opinion, that is how it should be. When the state gets involved in this way all attempts at objectivity go out the window. And you appear to be having problems understanding what I am saying. I don't know where Jayadeva was born and I don't care. I have no stake in anything but making sure that our policies and guidelines are followed. Wikipedia is under no obligation to report that what your government says about this is true. I'm not going to block you (although I have access to the software tools that would allow me to block you). I'm again saying that this article must follow our policy at WP:NPOV and our guidelines at [[WP:RS]. It does appear that Orissa state publications don't meet our guidelines at WP:RS from what you say. I don't know what your comment about freedom of speech is supposed to mean. The Indian government can deny freedom of speech for a variety of reasons including “public order,” “decency or morality” and “friendly relations with foreign states.” India is 140th out of 179 countries on the Press Freedom Index. But that doesn't really matter as there as freedom of speech has nothing to do with Wikipedia - obviously we can't have freedom to write anything here and you clearly agree that certain things shouldn't be written here. Dougweller (talk) 20:44, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

@Dougweller - In our Country Government agencies endorse scholarly reviews. I am aware of many other countries who do it. Please don't broadcast on behalf of India Government and let me know of countries who do not trust their govt. agencies. A reference will help. Please let me know who doesn't believe Jayadeva was not born in Odisha. I represent the government. Moreover an internet enthusiasts can't decide about the official publications of a state. You are welcome to visit Odisha State Museum. And by the emotions you are propagating on public domain you should accept you are a parochial Bengali.And let me tell you it was all settled in my grandfather's times Dr. Kanhu Charan Mishra. He is an eminent historian and a sanskrit visarad/pandit. An exponent of Jayadeva Culture in Utkal University of Culture.--Arjyap (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Arjyap, you are wrong in your statements about the birthplace or at least you are so by the criteria that are used here on Wikipedia. And, no, a government stamp of approval does not legitimise something: there are a multitude of situations where governments disagree and/or change their minds and thus it would be ludicrous to prefer one version over another. You are free to insist on your belief in an Orissa origin elsewhere but not to do so here. Worse, in the process of attempting to achieve your goal (which according to our policies would violate neutrality) it turns out that you are attacking other people and making assumptions regarding their background etc that have no valid basis. You can't do that here. - Sitush (talk) 23:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

"Government agencies endorse scholarly reviews" inevitably means "the political party in power endorses scholarly reviews". Some countries work like this, using politics and history as a political tool, and I agree that this happens in India as I know of other instances. A corollary is that what is truth at one point later becomes heresy. But that's not acceptable here. Sure, we can represent any significant view as the view of the government of the time, etc, but we cannot and will not accept that as proof that something is actually true. And please stop denigrating other editors. Dougweller (talk) 09:54, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I am happy with the content being neutral as most historians settled for the view that he was from Odisha. But let us not give references to books that are dated as old as 1977 and not from people who don't have any idea on India History and Culture. A lot has been researched, published and peer reviewed in national as well as international conferences on Jayadeva. While there is no claim from Bihar or West Bengal since it was rebuked and rejected many years ago. All government agencies do believe their responsibilities and they fund millions on such research. A lot has been said and argued. Dr Suniti Chatterjee has also accepted the view and taken back his words. Anyways I don't wanna waste everyone's time so I leave it upto you. Hope someday you will have it corrected. And @Dougweller - Your comments about India and government here are too immature. You are entitled to have your own opinion and let me have mine. Let me know when you are in Bhubaneswar and I will be happy to take you around the ASI sites and the museum. We also have Vaishnava Lilamrita by Madhava Patnaik. I don't want to change you view but just to show about our research and the findings. Cheers!--Arjyap (talk) 10:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Jayadeva in Sikhism

There doesn't seem to be anything in Jayadeva in Sikhism that justifies its status as a separate article. That which is present can easily be incorporated into the main Jayadeva article. Sitush (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

This should be non-controversial, and I'll do it tomorrow unless someone object/beats me to it.. In performing the merge it would be best to refer to the source directly rather than the Jayadeva in Sikhism article, since the former contains important qualifiers. Abecedare (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I've already merged them. --regentspark (comment) 18:36, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Jayadeva's literary delight had influence on Sikhism as most of the Gurus in Sikhism were followers of Lord Jagannath..it is just the influence and not anyfactual contribution. It is an established fact that he was born near Puri in Odisha. And let us add a reference to scholarly reports and not just biased or uninformed writers like Williams, and Nirmal Dass. And for easy interpretations Bengali is far from being a classical language wgich never existed 600 years ago..But Oriya is somewhat similar to sanskrit and pali which has many similarities to oriya language..In medieval era sanskrit was use predominantly in Odisha..You can see the proof in the culture and the temple scriptures of Bhubaneswar and near by areas. Please stop this nonsense talk as you sound like a POV and not neutral in any sense. You have violated wikipedia(which is not a single source of truth)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.153.155 (talk) 20:12, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Jayadeva was born in Puri, Odisha.

This is an established fact that Jayadeva was born in Puri, Odisha. Please let us not gloss over the fact. Sanskrit is very similar to oriya and not any close to bengali. Oriya was formed around 5-6 centuries ahead of Bengali. And that is a testimony. Jayadev's writings were Vaishnava as he referred to Lord krishna. Only after 15th century did Bengal saw Vaishnavism when there were already temples dedicated to Radha Madhava in Kenduli Sasan. Jayadeva was a Brahmin and a Sasan in a brahmin village. Hope it clarifies the myth spread by the stupid westerners.Aryadash (talk) 22:00, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

It is not an "established fact" according to reliable sources and your own original research counts for nothing here. Please read the recent discussions above. - Sitush (talk) 12:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Your reliable sources are no way reliable as it isn't scholarly...— — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.153.155 (talk) 19:55, 6 December 2013 (UTC) You should be able to provide evidence and not history to prove the facts...Mr Sitush..--Aryadash (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

That's not the way we work. Our articles reflect the work of sources that meet our criteria at WP:RS. We do not try to present our own evidence, that is against our policy of no original research as you've been told above. If you think any sources fail WP:RS you can raise them at WP:RSN. Dougweller (talk) 22:14, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

In addition, we have the neutrality policy. This means that we need to reflect the opinions of all reliable sources as and when we find them. We cannot just ditch some because we do not like the things. Believe me, if we could then I would love it because I'd have a field day stripping out things that (in my opinion) are plainly daft across a whole range of articles. But then other people would think that what I consider to be plain daft is in fact the right thing. Like you, I am constrained by the community consensus and, however paradoxical it may seem, I agree with it. If you do not like the policy then you'll have to try to persuade the community to adjust it ... and like it or not, your chances of succeeding are somewhere around infinity + 1. - Sitush (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I see it totally biased and one sided. One gentleman seems to be right and from the comments I learned he is somebody from Orissa State Museum. I am from Bengal and from the Asiatic Society which researches on these topics. I had never had an easy debate on Jayadeva against Oriya scholars. It is factually right that Jayadeva was born in Kenduli Sasan near Puri. I see it settled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.25.115 (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2015

Santoshdasandroid (talk) 11:09, 14 September 2015 (UTC) Sri Jayadev is famous amongst the poets of India for his book entitled Geeta Govinda, which contains devotional songs reflecting the glories of Lord Krishna. Moreover this book, since its inception, has been attracting classical singers as well as dancers all over the country for it's splendors, styles and picturesque descriptions in Sanskrit. The lyrics of the book have attracted numerous devotees of India, especially the Vaishnavites, to such an extent that they commit the verses to heart, chanting while offering prayers to the Almighty.

Although poet Jayadev and his Geeta Govinda have became renowned all over the country, his birth place has remained controversial even up to the later part of the twentieth century. Poet Jayadev was wrongly depicted as a court poet of Laxman Sen, the 12th century king of Bengal, by Ceylonese poet George Keyt in the forward of his book Song of Love, published by Hindi Books, New Delhi.

Secondly, a Bengali poet named Banamali Das of nineteenth century, in his book Jayadeva's Creation, had written that the poet Jayadev belonged to Kenduli village of Birbhumi, West Bengal. But these facts have been contradicted and repudiated by Oriya scholars, Indologists and Orientalists. They are of the opinion that poet Jayadev was born in the village Kenduli or Kenduvillva, in the bank of River Prachi, a few miles away from Puri, a renowned Vaishnava seat of India and famous for Lord Jagannath's Temple. Their opinions take into consideration the following facts:

1. Pandit Keshava Mishra, A Maithili scholar in his book Alankar Sekhar has opined that Jayadev was the greatest of the poets and scholars who had adorned Utkal Bhupati Sabha.

2. Maithili poet Chandradutta in his book Bhakti Mala, written in Sanskrit, has opined his views that Jayadev was an 'Utkal Brahmin' and he was residing near Puri.

3. Navojee of Gwalior, who authored the book Bhaktimala in Hindi, had mentioned Jayadev in 1585 as being a poet of the then Utkal.

4. Poet Mahipati of Maharastra in his book titled Bhakti Vijaya had given hints that poet Jayadev belonged to Kenduvilla (Kendubillwa) near Puri.

5. In 'Kuladipak', a book written in Assamese language, it has been admitted that Jayadev was of Utkal.

6. Pandit Mallagi Suryanarayan Shastri, a scholar of Andhra Pradesh, in his book entitled Sanskrit Poets Biography has mentioned that the author of Geeta Govinda of eleventh century belonged to Kendubillwa, near Jagannath Kshetra Utkal.

7. Haridas Hirachand of Maharashtra in 1365 admitted in the foreword of a book edited by him in Marathi language that Jayadev was born near Srikshetra in the village of Kendubillwa.

8. Dr Parsuram Chaturvedi, a critic of Hindu literature, in his book Uttar Bharat Ki Santh Parampara mentioned that poet Jayadev belonged to Utkal.

9. It has been proved that there is no such village named Kenduli in the revenue map of Birbhum, West Bengal.

10. The temple named after Jayadev in West Bengal, claimed by some Bengali scholars, was subsequently proved to have been built by the Queen of Burdhaman in 1683, whereas there is ample evidence to show that Jayadev belonged to the 12th century. The inscription of Lord Jagannath Temple, which is about 500 years prior to the construction of the so-called Jayadev temple by the Queen of Burdhaman, clearly mentioned that Lord Jagannath listens to Geeta Govinda of Poet Jayadev before He retires to sleep.

11. Geeta Govinda Seva in Sri Mandir, the temple of Lord Jagannath, is so well known and common that its author seems to belong to its nearby river. Moreover Geeta Govinda Khurdha (a special cloth with verses of Geeta Govinda woven on its body), is used as a shawl by Lord Jagannath during the night. It is produced by weavers of Nuapatna and Maniabandha (District Cuttack).

12. According to Madala almanac, the poet Narasingha Dev had introduced singing of Geeta Govinda in the temple of Lord Jagannath.

13. An attempt was made during the reign of King Purusottama Dev to change the Geeta Govinda Seva in Lord Jagannath Temple, but it could not get recognition. So Gajapati Prataparudra Dev had recorded in the inscription lying at Jaya Vijaya Gate of Jagannath that "The Geeta Govinda of Bada Thakura should be sung and danced at the time of offering to the Lord."

14. Jayadev was from Orissa, say Bengali scholars (The Daily Statesman, 12th November, 2003). The extract from the Bhubaneswar edition of the Statesman dated 12th November 2003 points out the following facts"

"In a major turning point in the controversy over the birth place of the 12th century Sanskrit poet Jayadev, known all over the world as the writer of "Geeta Govinda" Kolkata scholars asserted at a national seminar of Utkal University of Culture, Bhubaneswar that the poet was born in Orissa and not in West Bengal.

Mr. Ashok Kumar Chakraborty, Superintendent of Gurusaday Museum, Kolkota, revealed that way back in 1979, he had submitted a report to the famous Jayadev Scholar, Dr. Kapila Vatsayan proving that Kenduvillwa village in Birbhum in West Bengal could not be the birth place of the poet. He was followed by historian Professor S. Sengupta of Kolkata who corroborated him and said that it is Kenduli village on the banks of river Prachi in Puri which is the birth place of the poet. Both the scholars cited a number of social-cultural, architectural and philosophical evidences to prove their points."

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Also, this is a direct copy-paste from http://odisha.gov.in/e-magazine/Orissareview/2008/feb-march-2008/engpdf/70-71.pdf Cannolis (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Sujit900's edits

@Sujit900: There is a separate article on Jayadeva birth controversy. This article already has a sourced statement which states that "Recent studies show scholars still disagree on the issue." That, with a list of proposed birthplaces is good enough for this article. An Odisha.gov.in e-magazine is not at all an acceptable source for asserting that Odisha is now unanimously or widely accepted as Jayadeva's birthplace. Besides, your edits have other problems such as unexplained removal of sourced content (e.g. the bit about Guru Granth Sahib) and addition of the irrelevant Odia script (Jayadeva was a Sanskrit poet, not an Odia poet; also see WP:INDICSCRIPT). utcursch | talk 17:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Utcursch Looks like some editors have started pushing particular views regarding his birthplace controversy. Check out the recent edits. ThethPunjabi (talk) 00:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@Utcursch: I understand but there are also no unbiased references about the fact that jayadeva was a court poet of Sena dynasty or he has visited bengal at sometime, but how can you anyone state that 'Jaydeva was a Sanskrit poet, during the reign of Lakshman Sen – the 12th century king of Bengal'. A similar references I also can give to you please follow this link The History of Medieval Vaishnavism in Orissa by Prabhat Mukharjee. There are lot of confusions about birthplace and where he lives. Then we should remove everything in this article about his birth and where lived, why not we write everything about his work only and rest in a separate article, which would be better. --sujit_km 04:23, 25 February 2017 (UTC)