Talk:Jasper (given name)
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Bad luck
[edit]I've heard in a couple of places (old cowboy shows like Rawhide mostly, an RPG book) that Jasper is a nickname for someone who brings trouble or badluck ("Three Jasper's rode into town"), any thing useful on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.17.155.35 (talk • contribs)
- Yes, in the film The Music Man, Prof. Harold Hill mentions an "out-of-town Jasper" in the song "You've Got Trouble." - Gilliam 07:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- This term was also apparently common enough to appear in the old jazz tune "Those Were The Days," with the lyric "Was that lonely Jasper really me?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.109.220.6 (talk) 15:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Issues
[edit]The article on "Jasper (name)" is filled with misinformation: 1. There is no Persian word "Casper" 2. There is no reference to "Jasper" ever being shown as one of the "Wise Men" 3. The references cited make NO reference to the name "Jasper" 4. The Wikipedia article on "Casper" originally stated specifically that "Jasper" was NOT a variation of Gaspar, Caspar, or Kaspar...but that section was later deleted, possibly by the author of the above text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadrack-dva (talk • contribs) 09:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I am confused because the mineral page lists the following as the origins for the word, this is not the same as the origins listed on this page. It would seem that the mineral is NOT named after the word for tresure and that the Name is not from "spotted or speckled stone".
"The name means "spotted or speckled stone", and is derived via Old French jaspre (variant of Anglo-Norman jaspe) and Latin iaspidem (nom. iaspis)) from Greek ἴασπις iaspis, (feminine noun)[4] from a Semitic language (cf. Hebrew ישפה yashepheh, Akkadian ܝܫܦܗ yashupu), ultimately from Persian یشپ yašp"
We should work this out because it seems that the mineral is a feminine noun and the name is a masculine noun. I know lots of women named Jasper and maybe if the roots are separate we could split them up. Or at least take the "male's given name" out of the article. Nebarnix (talk) 16:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
According to http://names.whitepages.com/first/Jasper:
"The usual English form of the name assigned in Christian folklore to one of the three Magi or ‘wise men’, who brought gifts to the infant Christ at his birth (Matthew 2:1). The name does not appear in the Bible, and is first found in medieval tradition. It seems to be ultimately of Persian origin, from a word meaning ‘treasurer’. There is probably no connection with the English vocabulary word jasper denoting a gemstone, which is of Semitic origin. The name was introduced into England from the Low Countries in the Middle Ages and, although it never became popular, continued to be widely used in parts of the north." --Holdek (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)