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This article contains a translation of 2010年日本における口蹄疫の流行 from ja.wikipedia. |
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[edit]1.Re:Title "2010 Japan foot-and-mouth outbreak" Even though this whole disaster happened in Japan, we must consider the fact that the FMD outbreak in 2010 started in Miyazaki Pref. strangely at pin point and is still maintained within Miyazaki. Considering 15 people killed themselves from devastation, we must note this is not a natural disaster but human error. Also having "Japan" will have a posibilities of damaging the image of quality brand itself. The contents are strictly about Miyazaki Beef and it's FMD and its history therefore it must remain as is. Otherwise the change is considered intentional. Should not be treated casually. Request to put the title back to "Miyazaki" instead of "Japan" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.163.122 (talk) 04:34, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
2.foot-and-mouth outbreak is inappropriate. It must be "Foot-And-Mouth Disease outbreak " —Preceding unsigned comment added by SaveJPN (talk • contribs) 19:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC) SaveJPN (talk) 19:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
3. Point 1 above is in error and should be ignored. Until the outbreak in Miyazaki, Japan had disease free status for foot and mouth disease. Disease free status is maintained at the national level. Japan lost its disease free status, so the outbreak is a Japanese outbreak. People outside Japan, including myself, will search for foot and mouth disease in Japan, not foot and mouth disease in Miyazaki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.153.49 (talk) 23:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
4."foot-and-mouth outbreak" is inappropriate. It needs "Disease" and also in some cases it is called as "Hoot-and-Mouth Disease". Please correct this ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SaveJPN (talk • contribs) 23:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, translators!
[edit]Hi SaveJPN and Nakasendo, thanks for all your hard work translating. Now that the outbreak seems to be over, I would like to help organize the article and make the English better. I look forward to working with you who have put so much effort into translating this article. Thank you!
- About the title of the article, I think it's ok. Please see Foot-and-mouth outbreak; the same format has been used to describe the UK outbreaks as well, e.g. 2007 United Kingdom foot-and-mouth outbreak. Most English readers are aware that the phrase "foot and mouth" refers to a disease; it is how we use the phrase. If I'm having a conversation and I say "foot and mouth outbreak", people know that means it is talking about a disease and not something else. I think the articles get labeled by country because Wikipedia is worldwide so most people probably don't know where Miyazaki is. It's not intended to hurt Japan's image at all; even the Japanese Wikipedia calls it the 2010 Japan foot and mouth epidemic ja:2010年日本における口蹄疫の流行 so I think it's ok.
- On a different note, I wanted to ask SaveJPN if you could tell me where you translated the 2000 - 2006 timelines from. I was working on the 2000 outbreak section and trying to figure out where some of the information came from, especially the May 10 announcement that the outbreak was over and the April 27 budget allocation of 10 billion yen to affected farmers. I can read Japanese, but I'm very slow at it and I have to use a dictionary; so if you give me a Japanese source it is ok :) or, if you know the Japanese wikipedia article the information came from, that's ok too. I looked at ja:2000年日本における口蹄疫 but I couldn't find information about the budget allocation. Thank you!
-- Joren (talk) 08:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Missing graphic file
[edit]One of the graphics, File:HowDPJtreatsFMD.jpg is missing. The description says "Left:9000 farms in Iwate Pref. were due to receive disinfection following week.Right:DPJ Mabuchi in his flyer claims Miyazaki Pref. for outbreak", but there is no image file. Do either of you know where the file is, or can you upload it? Thank you,
-- Joren (talk) 05:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
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April 2020: Essentially unreadable
[edit]This article lacks organization. It reads as a very detailed timeline, collated from news reports. Its level of excessive, momentary detail is extreme. Apparently, its editors have yet to make the effort to read secondary and tertiary sources on the outbreak, which might be sources of insight into the dynamics of the event, enabling the article to be more concise and less wordy and meandering.
This is ostensibly an epidemiology article. Perhaps the aspect of the article I find most infuriating is the series of paragraphs near the beginning which describe a series of frozen bull sperm thefts and the admission to Japan of Korean agricultural trainees. I'm unclear as to the significance of these events in the causation of the outbreak. Why are they mentioned at the start of the article?
I hope another editor can make sense of this article, which apparently is a direct translation of the Japanese Wikipedia article. It would seem that the other Wikipedia has a different set of editorial standards than this one.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
April 2021: Tons of details, but really no content
[edit]Article reads like a log of everything that happened during the period; indiscriminate, with no summing up. Is this a direct translation of an article on another Wikipedia? What is with the theft of bull sperm over a period of years? Was it in any way relevant to the outbreak? What about the Korean trainee? I definitely won't read this endless, boring, and useless article. Whatever lessons were learned, they are not being conveyed by this article.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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