Talk:Japan Air Self-Defense Force

New Information

Does anyone have any new information on the amount of airmen or number of aircraft the JASDF currently has? The information on this page concerning those is over 10 years old. Information on the amount of each type of aircraft in their inventory would be nice too. There is also talk within the JASDF community of them possibly purchacing F-22's in the near future, i think there should be a possible mention about their current choices somewhere here. --user:zeroyon] 4 April, 2006

One thing I know for sure is that they have around about 90 F-4Js Phantoms, and that they are looking to replace them by 2010. The US congress has not allowed the sale of the Raptor for now, so that option is out, and the F-35 won't roll off the production line until 2014 at the earliest, and since their Phantoms are already 35 years old and need replacing ASAP, that option also seems out. Another sticking point is that the japanese would want to produce their planes locally, and I don't see that happening with the Raptor. For now they have expressed interest in either the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F15E or the F/A18E (Dassault of France apparently declined to participate with their Rafale). They will apparently make up their minds sometime in october this year, it is said. Daft, 13 April, 2007

WP:MILHIST Assessment

Pretty long, pretty good start. But not nearly enough prose paragraphs - this needs to be more than organizational diagrams and bullet-point lists. LordAmeth 14:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

List of F-104 Starfighter operators

User:Nimbus227 added this list to the "see also" section on a large number of articles rather hastiliy. After pointing out that this could be considered spamming and was inappropriate given the relatively tenuous link to this and other articles, he agreed that they could be removed. I have removed it accordingly. John Smith's (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Sendai earthquake

An airforce base in Miyagi was damaged. More than twenty jets were destroyed and deemed unsalvageable. [1] SSDGFCTCT9 (talk) 21:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

No mention

Why is there no mention of the Japanese repeated attempts to purchase F-22's, the last being December 2010 when they were rebuked by then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stating that "The US doesnt sell this kind of technology."? Also, what about Japans attempt to join in the JSF F-35 program? 67.166.155.113 (talk) 07:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

why no mention of kamekasi suicidal missions

I learnt in highschool about the japs flying plains into ships and stuff. they were kamekasi. why are they no t mentioned in article? please help immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.74.21 (talk) 17:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

All the events happened long before the JASDF was formed in 1954, have a read of Kamikaze. MilborneOne (talk) 18:40, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Article on F-X selection

I think it's premature to say that the F-X competition has been narrowed down to the F-35 or Super Hornet. I haven't found any other sources saying that the Eurofighter has been eliminated, and even the article cited just says "Japan Self Defense Air Force future replacement of F-4J fighters (F-X) is becoming a head-to-head competition between the two American aerospace giants". If a decision is expected next month, there's no need to be premature in saying that the Eurofighter has been eliminated. John Smith's (talk) 19:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Past Equipment and F-X (F-35)

I'm not sure if the Past Equipment section should include aircraft or not, but aircraft previously used by the JASDF include the F86, F86D, T-2, and F-1 (and others).

Also, I think it should be mentioned that the F-X (F-35) is scheduled to replace the RF-4E and F-4EJ, according to Japanese news sources.(75.65.220.111 (talk) 14:32, 10 January 2012 (UTC))

F-3

Does anybody have more information on this new Japanese aircraft in development? http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?209785-F-3-quot-XinShen-quot-VS-J-20-and-2033-2035-Japan-5th-amp-6th-fighter-project-%28CGI%29 Ceagull (talk) 01:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Japan Air Self-Defense Force

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Japan Air Self-Defense Force's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "World Air Forces 2019":

• From German Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Archived from the original on 23 January 2019. Retrieved 5 January 2019.
• From Korean People's Army Air and Anti-Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 5 January 2019.
• From Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Archived from the original on 23 January 2019. Retrieved 4 December 2018.
• From Spanish Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Archived from the original on December 2018. Retrieved 16 August 2019. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |archive-date= (help)
• From Brazilian Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 4 May 2019.
• From Royal Netherlands Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 4 December 2018.
• From Israeli Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 5 December 2018.
• From Belgian Air Component: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 14 October 2019.
• From Hungarian Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 5 January 2019.
• From Libyan Air Force: Hoyle, Craig (2018). "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. Archived from the original on 15 August 2019. Retrieved 27 March 2019. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 23 January 2019 suggested (help)
• From Royal Australian Air Force: "Defence Connect". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Retrieved 5 January 2019.
• From Hellenic Air Force: "World Air Forces 2019". Flightglobal Insight. 2019. Archived from the original on January 23, 2019. Retrieved February 6, 2019.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Aircrafts Table

I am here to seek consensus for my edits. I personally do not think the two-seat fighters belong in the trainers section, which normally would mean a aircraft specifically designed for a trainer role. Aircraft such as the F-2B and F-15DJ are mainly used to train pilots, but are fully combat capable. These aircraft are still classified as fighters. The table is very incorrect, for example, the T-3 trainer was retired more than a decade ago. The YS-11 in it are used in a Electronic Warfare capacity. Another thing I removed was the "Type" column, which made no sense because the aircraft were already sorted to mission types. In the old table, two types were listed under "AWACS", "AEW" and "early warning and control". This makes zero sense, they are referring to the same thing. The variants column is redundant, as they were already listed to the left and also wrong. (the ASDF does not operate the T-1A Jayhawk)

The reason given for reverting my edits by FOX52, "thats not how we do it" is confusing, many equipment tables hardly follow a standard; the type on the JASDF page is found nowhere else. Look at this page for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_United_States_military_aircraft Again, this table itself doesn't follow a standard; "licensed built by Mitsubishi" and "manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries" literally mean the same thing. The fact that there was a link on every column to Japan and US were also ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chokoladesu (talk • contribs) 19:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

standard format - version 2

@Chokoladesu: - Your version is full of un-sourced content ie: “designated KC-767J within Boeing” which may be removed per WP:PROVEIT. your removed the variants section, with out any explanation. You have desinations that have not wikilink to give the reader, any additional information. FOX 52 (talk) 20:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

And yes this is the standard to name a few:

Ukrainian Air Force
Irish Air Corps
Algerian Air Force
Vietnam People's Air Force
United States Marine Corps Aviation
List of active United States Air Force aircraft
Mexican Air Force
Royal Thai Air Force

I see, thank you. I removed the variants column because some were already listed to the left, such as "F-15J" and then "F-15J" to the right. The KC-767 is only known as KC-767 within the JASDF. https://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/equipment/yusouki/KC-767/index.html the government site shows mostly every aircraft used by the ASDF and their domestic designations. Chokoladesu (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

So you removed "variants" section because of one duplicate aircraft (F-15J), but disregarded the UH-60, CH-47, C-130, Boeing 777, and the F-35 Lightning II with their variants. That makes no sense - FOX 52 (talk) 00:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

it felt redundant to me. A lot of those boxes weren't even filled out. Aircraft designation systems differ around the world, and many "baseline models" of aircraft do not receive a suffix in their designation. Such is the case for Japanese aircraft. For example, the first variant of a C-1 and C-2 are just the C-1 and C-2. This is different from the US designating the first model A, as in "C-17A." If we had the variants column, there would be "T-4" in the T-4's variants row, "C-2" in the C-2 row and "U-125" in the U-125's row. I don't see any harm in listing the actual aircraft name on the left. Chokoladesu (talk) 01:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

No don't confuse designation from variant, a designation name doesn't have a link which has no value for the reader. A variant can be linked to show the reader the base model, & the break down to variants (which show engine/avionics upgrades etc). ei F-16 Fighting Falcon variant F-16A - FOX 52 (talk) 02:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

• JASDF emblem.svg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 16:53, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Inaccurate Emblem

The JASDF emblem by FOX 52 is quite different from the official emblem. See for example the JASDF Twitter header image, 2. on the official website and these stickers. The flag also uses an inaccurate design. So please make an accurate version if you can. -Artanisen (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

The emblem has been updated so it's resolved. - Artanisen (talk) 14:48, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

ADIZ Zone Map

This map of the Air Defense Identification Zone [2] , should it also include the Ogasawara islands and Minamitorishima and Okinotorishima? -Artanisen (talk) 14:47, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

No mention of mascots like Omaneko

this Wikipedia article does not mention JASDF mascots like Omaneko Phiro8 (talk) 21:29, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Why should it? BilCat (talk) 21:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)