Talk:Janine Gordon

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Notability

I do not think that this page should be deleted because this artist does have published works not only as a music, but also as a photographer. There are many references and citations placed within the article proving it's validity. I was also able to find the artist's ASCAP catalog to prove that she does have copyrighted songs giving her recognition for her works which are recognized by ASCAP, a legitimate copyright organization for musicians and composers. Here's the link to Janine "Jah Jah" Gordon's ASCAP Catalog: http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=JAH%20JAH&search_in=a&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=30&start=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vermillion ink (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 October 2008

That she has "published works" does not make her notable. There are several citations in the article proving that she exists (which does not establish notability) and that several non-reliable sources have covered her. Having songs copyrighted shows only that she submitted songs to ASCAP and paid her fee, nothing else.

Notability is best shown by citing substantial coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. If someone cures cancer and resolves all conflict in the middle east but aren't the subject of substantial coverage in reliable sources, they aren't notable. Someone best known for sitting around watching TV would be notable if they are the subject of substantial coverage in reliable sources. Telling us the person has done X, Y and Z is moot. We need substantial coverage in reliable, independent sources.

For the moment, I'll let this one stand with a notability tag. I'll be back in a couple days to re-check it. If I still don't see notability, I'll send it to AfD. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.36.71 (talk) 13:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yes this article stinks of self-promotion. and not even a disambiguation? because Jah-jah is the Rastafarian word for'God Seems that is what really belongs on this page. 49.133.118.70 (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Factually Inaccurate

Not sure where to put this as I'm new to editing so maybe this is the right place. I didn't want to change much except a few typos but this is such a factually one sided article that does not represent either standards for an artists CV for art historical purposes, or many important facts about Gordon's litigiousness.

There are show listed she was never in, galleries that showed her in a fair boot once that she lists as shows, and most notably leaves out the lawsuit agasint Ryan McGinley for which the judge took her and her advisors to task.

I'll repost here...

LOL if I'm not asking in the right place can someone help me out? Trying to get the hang of this... :-)

Janine Gordon

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This article is riddled with inaccuracies, lack of citations and omissions that are glaringly obvious. There is no follow up to the lawsuit against 50 Cent. She lost. There is also no mention of her suit against the photographer Ryan McGinley, which was dismissed in short order by the judge. Ms.Gordon's litigiousness is not reflected in the wiki by the inclusion of the results of her lawsuits. She also sued Levi Straus, Team Gallery, Chris Perez: Ratio 3 gallery, and Peter Halpert

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There should be link to the judges dismissal^[4]

And the motion to dismiss that eviscerates Gordons lawsuit^[5]

References

^ Corbett, Rachel. "DISMISSED! JUDGE TOSSES COPYRIGHT LAWSUIT AGAINST RYAN MCGINLEY". Artnet.com. Artnet News. Retrieved 9 August 2016.
^ Freire, Jose. "Team Gallery's José Freire on Why Janine Gordon's McGinley Lawsuit is Meritless". Bloutin Art Info. Louise Bloutin. Retrieved 9 August 2016.
^ Masnick, Mike. "Judge Slams Photographer For Bogus Copyright Lawsuit: Says Use Some Common Sense, Points Out 'Utter Lack Of Similarity'". Tech dirt. Retrieved 9 August 2016.
^ Sullivan, Judge Robert. "JANINE GORDON, Plaintiff, VERSUS RYAN MCGINLEY, ETAL., Defendants" (PDF). The New York Times. Retrieved 9 August 2016.
^ McGinley, Ryan; et al. "DEFENDANTS' REPLY MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN FURTHER SUPPORT OF THEIR JOINT MOTION TO DISMISS THE AMENDED COMPLAINT" (PDF). copyrightem.com. Retrieved 9 August 2016. {{cite web}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |last1= (help)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ) 07:44, 9 August 2016 (UTC) TaterLAX (talk) 07:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC) [reply]

[1] Corbett, Rachel. "DISMISSED! JUDGE TOSSES COPYRIGHT LAWSUIT AGAINST RYAN MCGINLEY". Artnet.com. Artnet News. Retrieved 9 August 2016.

[2] Freire, Jose. "Team Gallery's José Freire on Why Janine Gordon's McGinley Lawsuit is Meritless". Bloutin Art Info. Louise Bloutin. Retrieved 9 August 2016.

[3] Masnick, Mike. "Judge Slams Photographer For Bogus Copyright Lawsuit: Says Use Some Common Sense, Points Out 'Utter Lack Of Similarity'". Tech dirt. Retrieved 9 August 2016.

[4] Sullivan, Judge Robert. "JANINE GORDON, Plaintiff, VERSUS RYAN MCGINLEY, ETAL., Defendants" (PDF). The New York Times. Retrieved 9 August 2016.

[5] McGinley, Ryan; et al. "DEFENDANTS' REPLY MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN FURTHER SUPPORT OF THEIR JOINT MOTION TO DISMISS THE AMENDED COMPLAINT" (PDF). copyrightem.com. Retrieved 9 August 2016. {{cite web}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |last1= (help)

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