Talk:Janina San Miguel

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Date	Process	Result
May 28, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed
November 30, 2023	Good article reassessment	Kept

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 6, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that as a result of Janina San Miguel's response to a question in the 2008 Binibining Pilipinas World pageant, the Philippine government proposed English courses for beauty pageant contestants?

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Hi! Can anybody please describe why knowing English is required from Miss Philipines?--79.111.101.222 (talk) 08:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Reassessment

Janina San Miguel

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Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs an update, with very little post-2009 information. Uncited text throughout, and unnecessary quoting from the Q&A portion of a pageant. Lede might also need an expansion. Z1720 (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updated the article. Can you please be more specific which texts are unsourced? I can try finding sources. D-Flo27 (talk) 12:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@D-Flo27, I'm not Z1720 but I have added some "Citation needed" templates to places that need citations. Hopefully it will help. Cheers! Spinixster (chat!) 14:10, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding citations. I would like to add that there are a few other problems:

Reference 11 is just a YouTube search page. I'd recommend removing the information that is being cited unless there's another reliable source to back the claim up (if you need help, WP:RSP is your friend.
Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources, Pageantopolis is not reliable.
What makes GetzMo (reference 4) reliable? The page seems to be dead.

Below are not really recommendations in order to maintain its GA status, but is still worth fixing.

The citation style is inconsistent (some websites are wikilinked, some are not, some include authors, some do not), and per WP:CITEVAR, I'd suggest making it consistent.
I would recommend expanding the lead so it would summarize the entire article. Right now, it's quite short and does not summarize the article well. WP:LEAD might help.
Reference 23 is dead; I'd recommend finding an archived or live version.

Spinixster (chat!) 06:32, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've made some edits based on your suggestions. However, I'm not sure how I can expand the lead without mentioning her mistakes during the Q&A portion, which has been done on previous versions of this article and was even called out in this article from a popular lifestyle magazine. So, if you have any suggestions on that, let me know. D-Flo27 (talk) 02:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, do you mean what Z1720 has said? I think they meant the quoting in the Question and answer section was what's unnecessary. I would recommend removing the quote and stating that she had answered the question poorly instead. I don't think a quote is needed to show her mistakes. The Q&A portion can still be mentioned in the lead, since it's a prominent part of the section. Spinixster (chat!) 07:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see the above D-Flo27? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, unfortunately I've been busy the past week and this week that I haven't been able to add the edits. If someone else can do add those edits for me, that would be nice. D-Flo27 (talk) 04:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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