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NPOV issue

Er... who wrote this entry?!? It's quite detailed and quite adulatory and could do with some NPOV objectification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.89.127 (talk) 09:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have just addressed this issue. Wingspeed (talk) 22:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BAFTA query

[User:81.174.146.64] 11:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm writing an article about Janet Street-Porter and I am slightly confused by the way that JSP is described as winning a BAFTA. I believe from doing some research at the BAFTA online archive at bafta.org that it would be more correct to describe Janet Street-Porter as being the producer of the BAFTA award winning program 'Network 7' rather than as the winner of a BAFTA. The actual winners of this award were Shelley O’Neil, Matt Forrest and Damian Wayling.
1980 BAFTA Rediffusion Star Award (NOMINATION)
Show: 20th Century Box
Janet Street-Porter

1988 BAFTA for Graphics (WINNER)
Show: Network 7
Shelley O’Neil, Matt Forrest, Damian Wayling
(produced by Janet Street-Porter)

1989 BAFTA Graphics (NOMINATION)
Show: DEF II
Jane Wyatt
(produced by Janet Street-Porter)

The source link for this information is a pdf file hosted by the website bafta.org
http://www.bafta.org/site/webdav/site/myjahiasite/shared/import/TVandCraftWinners1980-1989_updated_.pdf
The reference No.1: Janet Street-Porter — screenonline.org.uk. Retrieved April 27, 2007 disagrees with the BAFTA document.
Many thanks to the user 'Eagleowl' for some excellent editing and housekeeping work following my edits. Thankyou.
I intend to get a user account soon. 81.174.146.64 01:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have cut the BAFTA reference from the intro, thus avoiding needless ambiguity. It's mentioned lower down the page anyway. Wingspeed (talk) 18:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Her accent

To what degree does she fake her common accent? Even if her parents sounded that common (and who can without study and practice?), most girls at a good state school in the 1950s would have learned to speak quite differently. Thus it is obviously a career choice to speak the way she does. Has she made any public admissions about why she does it? Wimstead (talk) 23:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted a reference to a "south London accent" since she was born and bred norht of the ThamesAusseagull (talk) 20:12, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Place of birth

Intro says Bow, as does the right hand box. Early life says 'south London'. Bow is not in south London. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.58.27 (talk) 07:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See above: "her accent". Ausseagull (talk) 20:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death

Some minor vandalism here as it has been stated she died on the 11th of August, 2011. Please correct and verify no other data has been tampered with.

Birth name, birth place, and parents' names

This article stated, along with numerous clone sites, that she was born Janet Bull in Bow, East London. This is NOT correct. On an episode of Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 4, Street-Porter stated that her parents married after her birth. At least two of her marriages give her middle initial as 'V' on the BMD records on Ancestry.co.uk. Assuming her birth date given here to be correct, it is most likely that her birth was not recorded until the first quarter (i.e., Jan-Feb-Mar) of 1947. Whatever the case, there were no instances of a Janet V Bull being recorded as a birth name either in the 4th quarter of 1946 or the 1st quarter of 1947 (although there was 1 born in Rugby, Warwickshire, in the 3rd quarter, which is unlikely to be her). A google search for "Janet Street-Porter" + Perivale gives her address when she lived there as '2 Bleasdale Avenue'. Assuming that to be correct, I searched the Ancestry.co.uk phone book archives, and found the occupant there in the 1960s to be "S W G Bull". Searching Findmypast for marriages of someone with names consistent with those initials in the few years following her birth, the only candidate was Stanley W G Bull who married a Cherrie C Ardern in Barnet, Middlesex, in 1954. Searching for "Janet V Ardern", sure enough, there is only 1 instance ever recorded in England and Wales, and her birth was recorded in the 1st quarter of 1947, in Brentford, Middlesex (the registration district which contains Perivale), giving her mother's maiden name as Jones. I then found a Cherrie C Jones marrying a George A Ardern in Bucklow Cheshire in 1941 and a death for Cherrie Cuff Bull in Aberconwy, Gwynedd, in 1998. As a final clincher, I found an article written by Street-Porter in the Independent about the death of her sister, Pat, on the 15 November 2006. She stated that she was 'over 55'. Searching for people born Ardern with mother's maiden name Jones 1941-1951, there were only 5 individuals, one of them Janet and one of them Patricia Ardern, born Fulham, London Jan-Mar 1949, mother's maiden name Jones. As further proof, the only Patricia Bull (no middle name) to be born Jan-Mar 1949 was born Fulham, mother's maiden name Jones (Patricia's birth was therefore recorded under both surnames). Given all the above evidence, it is clear that her birth name was Janet V Ardern, and her birth place was in the Brentford registration district (probably Perivale). Iantnm (talk) 15:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Whilst I don't have a problem with the line

"On the 16th January 2007 she was arrested and bailed over claims that she racially abused a neighbour."

It does n't really belong in the introduction of the article; next week it will be old news.

Last edited at 14:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 19:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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If you're coming here to suggest we add that she's died..

Please, don't waste either our or your time. She's evidently not dead, the article is protected so you can't add it and we won't be adding it. Ta. — ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 17:20, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]