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@Reidgreg – Hi, it looks like you added by whom? and who said this? tags to the last section of this wiki, so I'm trying to fix the section but I'm not sure how exactly? Each para. in that sec. is based on a single source, so the opinions and quotes are each from the ref given at the end of the para. So, to fix this sec., would you say I should –

  1. copy edit to make it clear that opinions and quotes are from the end-of-paragraph reference? eg 'It is deemed' to 'A 1971 history by Goslinga deems,' or
  2. include the end-of-paragraph ref at the end of the sentence as well.

Personally, no 2 is easier for me to do generally, so I would prefer it, but would it be enough to meet wiki guidance re avoiding weasel words / quote attribution clarity? Ps the linked wiki guidance on weasel words didn't really explain which of the above is preferable. Pps the article is much easier to read now, gorgeous editing <3 – Asdfjrjjj (talk) Asdfjrjjj (talk) 19:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think 1. which we call in-text attribution (WP:INTEXT). Something like: The expedition is deemed by historian Cornelus Goslinga to have helped "bring about the destruction of Spanish naval power" in the Caribbean.[22] I see from this bio that he was a history professor at U Florida, so saying 'historian' gives the reader some idea of his expertise. You could continue with Goslinga further described the capture of Campeachy as "one of the most courageous acts committed by so few people" to that time.[22] It does look a bit like overcitation but I believe that's the rule for quotes. Similarly with the other paragraphs of that section. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh shoot, will fix that in the near-to-far future then, thank you for lmk :) – Asdfjrjjj (talk) Asdfjrjjj (talk) 14:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]