Talk:Jamie Moffett

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regarding the original version of this article

Our production staff is currently working on this entry as well as the The Ordinary Radicals one, we should be collaborating on it throughout the day and next week as well. We would like it included because Jamie is the director of the film and we want him linkable in the TOR page for context. Thanks! --Chandlervision (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

imdb links

I removed the multiple IMDB links from the external links as each film is accessible via Mr Moffett's entry on IMDB and per WP:External links. I also added the section heading to the above comment as it was part of the original talk page for the previous version of the article, which was deleted. As to the best of my knowledge the new article is not associated with the previous one and that this article is an original composition by Meghan T. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 23:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

"I am not sure why you tagged the article Jamie Moffett for BIO. I have removed it because he has been nominated for a major award in his field and he has been the subject of multiple in depth articles by a variety of newspaper writers along with coverage on CNN. I did not write the article but i did work with the creator of the article to meet formatting standards. I would appreciate if you could point to specific concerns you have so that they may be addressed. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 23:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)" -- The preceding was pasted from this edit to User talk:Novaseminary by Novaseminary.[reply]

Here is my take on the sources currently referenced in the article, in order. The first Philadelphia City Paper cite quotes him in an article with the subject not about him. The kyvoice.com write-up is on a blog. He was only nominated for the Barrymore Award. The youtube video was apparently created by him. The Lexington Herald-Leader is a write-up about him and his film. The CNN article cited on the page does not mention him at all. The second Philadelphia City Paper cite is about him. The Oprah.com video is a two hour video, apparently not about him. Finally, The Huffington Post cite is about him, but a blog.

So, by my count, there are two blog postings, a Philadelphia City Paper article, and a Lexington Herald-Leader about him. I don't think this is enough to meet Wp:BIO #1 since the article does not mention that he has won any award. I don't think it meets #2 ("The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field") because the coverage of his independent documentaries in two articles and two blog posts does not rise to the level of "widely-recognized." He also does not meet WP:ARTIST either. I'm not saying he is not notable (yet), just that the article doesn't sufficiently make the case (yet). The article was deleted once already in May 2008 for this vary reason and initially created/edited by Chandlervision, a user who was blocked for adding promotional material (see above). I'm going to move this over to the article's talk page and reinsert the tag.

Novaseminary (talk) 23:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The first Philly City Paper article is about his organisation. You do have me on one criteria of wp:bio that is different from wp:musicbio, the winning an award or many nominations vs the nomination of a major award. Since the award nomination is for theatre sound design i argue that it should qualify under musicbio. The youtube video is made by him. That i think is the point of citing it. The CNN ref is to show notability for the subject of his film and is used as such. The video from the The Derrick Ashong Experience from Oprah's XM radio station includes an interview with Mr Moffett. If you didn't watch the video you could at least see that from the summary of the video. "Also, filmmaker Jamie Moffett brings the stories of people from El Salvador to life in his film Back To El Salvador. Watch as they discuss how artistry works in many ways for many people." kyvoice.com is a collection of the writings of journalists in central Kentucky; the one used is the blog of the managing editor of The Winchester Sun (which conveniently has no article at this time). Accredited journalists writing blogs that are published by their respective employers is not quite the same as my blog about whatever fancies me at that moment.

By my count that makes 3 newspaper articles about him or/and his organisation, 2 journalists' blogs about his work, the nomination for a notable award, and an interview on the show of a notable musician and activist which is hosted on Oprah's XM radio channel. Accordingly the article does at minimum satisfy wp:basic given the multiple independent sources. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 03:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You rightly note that the first Philly City Paper article is not about him; it focuses on the group as a whole and mre specifically on another founder of the groupd (FWIW, based on coverage of the org, I would think the org meets WP:ORG, if not this member). His name is only mentioned because of quotes he offered about the org. And as for the award he was nominated for, but did not win, it was for "Outstanding Sound Design" as presented by the Theatre Alliance of Greater Philadelphia. I am sure they are a fine group, but the award hardly sounds of the caliber that would qualify him for WP:MUSICBIO #8 ("Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.") Novaseminary (talk) 04:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the first comment in this section by delirious & lost was posted by that user on my talk page and pasted here by me. Sorry for any confusion. Novaseminary (talk) 05:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In this series of edits, I added a couple of recent Canadian newspaper reviews of his latest movie (1 aand 2). I think this in combination with the other sources gets him over the WP:GNG hurdle, if not some other WP:N derived guidelines, so I also removed the notbaility tag. Novaseminary (talk) 20:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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