Talk:James Sullivan (governor)

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Date	Process	Result
February 18, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Cdtew (talk · contribs) 04:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely want to claim this one. I'll get you my feedback ASAP, although it may be later tomorrow until I'm finished. Cdtew (talk) 04:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay; this article is top-notch, and covers yet another fascinating character from Federal-era Mass. Here are my comments:

Prose

I've made some edits, which I've tried to keep discrete; feel free to revert.
"and his mother was a child on board the ship he came over on whom he later wooed and wed" - This clause reads a little awkwardly; the profusion of pronouns is a contributing factor Rephrased Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"in 1773 Sullivan was offered a portion within the tract" - You may want to clarify what the "tract" was you're talking about Rephrased Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Although his politics was Democratic-Republican" - This could probably be worded more forthrightly; "his politics was" raises eyebrows; maybe "Although Sullivan leaned toward the Democratic-Republicans..."
"framed by Republican ideals. His Republicanism was..." - I think "Republican" and "Republicanism" should be lower-cased in this circumstance, as it sounds like you're talking about philosophical republicanism, not partisanship Done Magic♪piano 02:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The "Maine–New Brunswick border commission" subsection may need a sentence more background to give the lay reader some more comfort with the subject; as it is now, the background has to be teased out of the context, and even then is vague.
- I've rephrased this, although I haven't really added anything new. If you think more background is needed, you'll have to give a clearer indication of what you feel is missing. Magic♪piano 02:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"and spent some time as a captive in an Indian village" - not to be PC, but is there any way you could insert a specific tribe, rather than just an "Indian village"? Done Magic♪piano 02:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
" In 1808, while Sullivan was governor, a small fortification now known as Fort Sullivan was constructed in Calais, Maine." - you fail to indicate whom it was named after
- This is because (most annoyingly) no sources dealing with it say so. I think it's pretty likely it was named for him, but even its keepers claim not to know, and my opinion is OR at best. Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any 3PS's even speculating that it was named after Sullivan? I mean, the likelihood is high it was, but if there's no 3PS connecting the two, I'd say you should leave this fact out, because otherwise it raises the question I posed. Just my opinion, though. Cdtew (talk) 22:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found a source that renders an opinion. Magic♪piano 02:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images

The Caleb Strong image is missing a PD tag Fixed Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Harrison Gray Otis image doesn't have a valid PD-Art parameter Fixed Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All other photos check out.

Copyvio/Links/Citations

No Dablinks
No linkrot or bare URL's

Great job! Just a few minor corrections, and this one's good to go! Cdtew (talk) 06:17, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also found Sullivan unexpectedly fascinating. A real man of action, despite is lameness. Magic♪piano 22:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another fascinating guy! This on is good to o. Cdtew (talk) 02:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail: