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A fact from James R. Shepley appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 September 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that World War II war correspondent James R. Shepley has been called the "father" of HBO?

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:20, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that James R. Shepley coined "Merrill's Marauders" as a reporter, wrote inaccurately about the hydrogen bomb as a book author, and birthed HBO as an executive? Source: see footnotes 1,2, and 9 for the first part, 18 and 19 for the second part, and 7 and 34 for the third part

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hendrik van den Keere

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self-nominated at 23:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: The DYK comes across as a three-ring circus, and while "inaccurately" appears to be true, that phrase does not make me want to click to the article. Consider proposing alternative DYKs. David notMD (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think it's still worth trying to capture that he's one of the few reporters who became a successful publishing executive. So how about:

ALT1: ... that James R. Shepley coined "Merrill's Marauders" as a reporter and birthed HBO as an executive?

Or if the two-ring circus is too much, each of the individual items can be expanded:

ALT2: ... that James R. Shepley came up with the name "Merrill's Marauders" when a group of reporters in India were thinking up names for the World War II long range penetration jungle warfare unit?
ALT3: ... that James R. Shepley wrote controversially, and inaccurately, about the development of the hydrogen bomb?
ALT4: ... that James R. Shepley has been called "the father of" HBO?

Or the last could be preceded by a bit of the first:

ALT5: ... that World War II war correspondent James R. Shepley has been called "the father of" HBO?

ALT5 is kind of hooky. Personally, I still think ALT0 has value. And ALT2 may be of interest to military history readers, of which WP has a lot. Wasted Time R (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New enough, long enough, neutral, sources good and AGF, ALT5 is the best definitely. QPQ done. I would request a little copyedit though @Wasted Time R:, as there are a lot of quotes taken from the New York Times which is a copyvio proportion issue. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 14:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincent60030: Thanks for the review and I'm agreeable to going forward with ALT5. Good point about the NYT obit quotes – I have replaced one with an alternate source and eliminated another. So now there are only two quotes from it, which I think should be okay. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. We're all set! Yes that really helped :D Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 14:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]