Talk:James Caudy/Archive 1

Archive 1

Discrepency - Rifle Butt vs Barrel

The text of the page says the rifle barrel was used, while the roadside marker pictured claims it was the butt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.113.168.148 (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

This has been addressed under the "Explanatory notes" subsection under the "References" section. -- Caponer (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Basic copyedit and some suggestions

I came across this article at the Guild of Copyeditors requests. I spend a lot of time doing genealogy research and the name sounded familiar, so I decided to click and see what this page is about. I'm reasonably sure he's my 8th great-grandfather through Sarah Caudy (married Joseph Hanshaw, also spelled Handshaw or Hancher), although I only have reliable birth/marriage records to a woman named Margaret Henshaw, who is James' granddaughter according to one seemingly reliable family history. That said, I focus my research on verifying relatives (birth/marriage/death/etc. records) and researching verified relatives, and don't spend much time learning about relatives like James Caudy when I haven't reasonably confirmed their relation (In other words, this article has 50x more information than I previously knew about James).

Anyways, I'm not the best at copyediting, but I've tried to do some basic cleanup. The article still needs a thorough copyedit from the GoC. Some remarks (please respond after all my comments, not directly below these remarks...it breaks the numbering order):

1. Reference 2 seems to be a copyright violation (I don't really think we should assume that they had permission to use the newspaper clip). At the very least, it is much better to provide the newspaper as a reference, since the webpage can easily be deleted, leaving no clear clue as to its content. (the image has "Review Nov 2003", presumably indicating the newspaper is called the "Review")
2. I've capitalized "Point" in "Pissimore Point", expanded "Hund" to "Hundreth", and spelled out "County" (don't feel like searching, but I'm fairly sure there's a MOS policy about abbreviations that supports this).
3. "James Caudy was born in 1694 a descendant of the John Coode early Maryland Leader in Pissimore point, St Clements Hund, St Marys Co, Maryland. He possibly arrived in the Thirteen Colonies through Prince George's County in the Province of Maryland in the 1730s." ##The first sentence is ambiguous, I presume that "in Pissimore Point...Maryland" refers to his birth because of the infobox, but the way it was written, it could have also referred to where John Coode was a leader.
   1. Is there a reason why "Leader" is capitalized? It should only be capitalized if it is part a title.
   2. "He" in the second sentence is both unclear (James or John) and conflicting (first says he was born in Maryland). I think this section should be re-written or expanded to explain any possibilities about his birthplace. For example: "James Caudy was born in 1694 in Pissimore point, St Clements Hund, St Marys County, Maryland. He is a decendant of early Maryland leader John Coode. It is also possible that he may have been born in [country] and arrived in Prince George's County, Maryland in the 1730s." In any case, this needs better explanation and referencing. The newspaper article says he was born in Holland in 1707.
4. I think the article should be better referenced, especially with regard to his personal life. With some searching, there should be more sources to support his birthdate/place and issue. I've never brought an article to FA status (my first FL nominee is awaiting a copyedit from the GoC before being nominated), but I really doubt this article is ready for an FA nomination.
5. The infobox and "Personal life" section says his first wife is "Mary possibly Reid", while the "Early life" section says "While in Prince George's County, Caudy married his first wife, Mary Hutchinson."
6. "James Caudy was In cacapon as early as 1728 as he his absent from the Barnabas Church about that time and as his last 4 children do not show up on existing parish registers." Is this entire supported by a reliable source(s)? It sounds like original research. I changed "In cacapon" to "in Cacapon", but is this supposed to be "Cacapon River Valley"? I think the first part would be better worded as "James Caudy relocated to the Cacapon River Valley as early as 1728"
7. The rest of the article is not too bad, but the prose needs some improvement to reach FA quality (I'll leave that to another editor). About the only other issues that I've fixed are the convert templates (use the default conversion for acres to ha, spelled out the first time, then abbreviated the second time).
8. The "Personal life" section is unreferenced and needs to be formatted better. His parents should be mentioned in the "Early life" section. One way to clean this up would be to mention both marriages earlier in the article, then change this section's name to "Children" and say something like: "James Caudy had the following children with his first wife Mary:" followed by a bulleted list and "He had no children with his second wife." I've just made a few basic changes to the section

The bottom line is that I think this article needs better referencing and prose and seems like it needs a moderate amount of work to reach FA status. I also note you're a WikiCup participant (as am I). I think the above remarks are well-founded and I sincerely hope that this unsolicited critique doesn't come across as something that leads to any ill will. AHeneen (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

AHeneen, I appreciate your review of the article, and I apologize for not keeping a good eye on this article. Many edits were made to it that I do not concur or agree with, and some of them are not sourced, or poorly sourced, or use sources that do not meet Wikipedia standards. Therefore, I reverted the page to the way it was formatted when it received Good Article status. I apologize for the inconvenience, but could you copyedit the article as it is now? Thanks again! -- Caponer (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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