Talk:James Bond uncollected short stories
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"For Your Eyes Only, James"
[edit]What is the justification for saying that a short story set in 1956 would take place around the time of Diamonds Are Forever? References in that novel suggest a date of 1954. Opera hat 17:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted the reference to DaF. Opera hat 17:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Did anyone check the story itself? It is possible Weinberg/Westbrook made a continuity error. Unfortunately it and the other Moneypenny short have the distinction of being the only James Bond-related stories that I do not possess in some form. 23skidoo 22:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Further to the above, DAF was published in 1956 therefore it makes sense for the short story also set in 1956 to take place around the same time. Again, though I think someone needs to actually check the short story. If it contains a line indicating that it takes place after the events of DAF (or maybe ends as DAF begins), then the reference should be retained. 23skidoo 18:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Going by the historical context of the novel's plot, Diamonds are Forever pretty definitely takes place in 1954; there really was a diamond-smuggling problem at that time and there are several references to the recent arrival of Sir Percy Sillitoe (late of MI5) to crack down on the racket, which happened in December 1953/early 1954. Opera hat 05:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but what about the short story? The real world and the Bond world may differ, and Weinberg/Westbrook might still be capable of creating a continuity error. 23skidoo 05:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Did I understand you to say above that you hadn't read the short story either? I think any references to Diamonds are Forever should be left out until someone who has can confirm the link, if there is one. Back issues of Tatler might be available for consultation at one of the copyright libraries, but I'm afraid I live in the provinces and don't have regular access to any of them. Opera hat 14:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Tatler isn't distributed in Canada, so no I haven't seen it. IIRC the DAF reference came from someone who had read the story in the UK and summarized it on the Net somewhere. As Wikipedia started cracking down on sources I tried to find the posting but the page no longer seems to exist. I've been trying to find an online version of the story and it's companion, but so far no luck. These two stories remain the only pieces of Bond fiction that I have never been able to access (I even have that Your Deal, Mr. Bond story I added to this article a few days ago). 23skidoo 00:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Did I understand you to say above that you hadn't read the short story either? I think any references to Diamonds are Forever should be left out until someone who has can confirm the link, if there is one. Back issues of Tatler might be available for consultation at one of the copyright libraries, but I'm afraid I live in the provinces and don't have regular access to any of them. Opera hat 14:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but what about the short story? The real world and the Bond world may differ, and Weinberg/Westbrook might still be capable of creating a continuity error. 23skidoo 05:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Going by the historical context of the novel's plot, Diamonds are Forever pretty definitely takes place in 1954; there really was a diamond-smuggling problem at that time and there are several references to the recent arrival of Sir Percy Sillitoe (late of MI5) to crack down on the racket, which happened in December 1953/early 1954. Opera hat 05:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Further to the above, DAF was published in 1956 therefore it makes sense for the short story also set in 1956 to take place around the same time. Again, though I think someone needs to actually check the short story. If it contains a line indicating that it takes place after the events of DAF (or maybe ends as DAF begins), then the reference should be retained. 23skidoo 18:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Did anyone check the story itself? It is possible Weinberg/Westbrook made a continuity error. Unfortunately it and the other Moneypenny short have the distinction of being the only James Bond-related stories that I do not possess in some form. 23skidoo 22:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Blast from the Past
[edit]The Literary 007 website states that the uncut version of Blast from the Past will be published for the first time "in English" in the upcoming Pegasus Books Benson omnibus. That suggests that the full version has already been published elsewhere, but not in English. Anyone have any details about this? 23skidoo (talk) 06:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- When Blast from the Past is eventually released in the omnibus, we'll need to create a separate article on the story as it won't qualify for this "uncollected" article anymore. 23skidoo (talk) 16:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently the full version has been published before in Italian and French. [1] Opera hat (talk) 11:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting. This should be added. It would be nice if we could find bibliographical information as to where the "director's cut" (as the article calls it) first appeared. Also, it might be worth checking the upcomign Quantum of Solace short story collection from Penguin. Since IFP seems uninterested in reprinting non-Fleming works (the Benson omnibus being an odd exception) I wouldn't expect them to include any of Benson's shorts, but you never know. 23skidoo (talk) 13:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
The other Bensons
[edit]Amazon.co.uk is now offering for sale "Choice of Weapons: Three 007 novels by Raymond Benson, including the short stories Live at Five and A Midsummer Night's Doom". Opera hat (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Time to trim?
[edit]As all the Benson short stories have now been collected in books, they should be removed from this article as the no longer satisfy the criteria. A case could also be made for the Higson and the Bridge-related Bond stories likewise should be removed as they were originally published in books. Technically as of 2011 the only uncollected official Bond-related short stories are the two Moneypenny pieces. If that's the case, maybe it's time for this article to be retired and the remnants merged with the James Bond novels article. 68.146.80.110 (talk) 06:21, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Raymond Benson section
[edit]Repeating a comment/suggestion left here nearly 10 years ago, the Raymond Benson short stories - except Heart of Erzulie - have been reprinted in collections, so shouldn't be listed anymore as they don't fit the criteria. Likewise the Higson story. This article now includes unauthorized stories so there's no need to retire the article, but several listings here are no long applicable. 70.73.90.119 (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm uncertain about not retiring this article. If someone nominates it for deletion, I would vote to delete and merge any unique info into one of the other articles detailing the Bond canon. 23skidoo (talk) 20:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Was the book publication of Blast from the Past complete?
[edit]The section on Blast from the Past mentions it was cut by a third before it ran in Playboy and it's been mentioned as having been published in full in a non-English venue. Is anyone able to confirm the omnibus publication was the complete thing or not? 2604:3D09:1F74:1C00:C1FD:B975:CAD3:FA47 (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)