Talk:Jai Singh I

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Article is lacking in references per the normal wikiway. One should use the "ref name" format if one uses the same reference all over the article. For an example of how to do this in an Indian history article, see Bhagat Singh.
At the moment, the content is only a biography, try adding a bit about legacy or depictions in the modern world or importance etc.
A bit of a copyedit required.
See whether you can get some sort of image. But read copyright guidelines.
Background is required, at the moment the article is not as useful to non-Indians as it is to Indians. A context so to speak.

Otherwise, well written. Referencing and expansion are the main points to see about here. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INDIA Banner/Rajasthan workgroup Addition

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Rajasthan workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Rajasthan or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 07:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral Point of View Problems

This article seems to seriously violate Wikipedia's principle of neutral point of view several times. Specifically, it refers to emperor Aurangzeb as "bigoted" and also refers to the capture of prince Dara Shikoh as having been committed "treacherously". The article also only cites historical sources from the early twentieth century. Newer authorship would almost certainly be helpful in providing a more balanced interpretation and presentation of the events and individuals discussed in this article. Derek Tank (talk) 04:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deccan campaign of Jai Singh

Hello,@Kautilya3:, I wrote a proper researched lines about Jai Singh I. It is not over detail but very important to understand the campaign of Jai Singh in Deccan (1665).The details are actually just a overview of the topic for readers, who wants to know this episode of Maratha, Amber history. Every one knows, those are student of history that Jai Singh has title of Mirza Rajah given by Shaha Jahan, so you don't need to remove it. Jadunath sarkar was a respected historian and wrote this. After research fory Parisian, English factory record, Marathi Bakhar, Portuguese documents. If you are satisfied, I want to revert my edits. If you want to change or suggest something, your welcome, thankyou. Education is strength (talk) 04:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jadunath Sarkar is a colonial era writer, not a contemporary scholar. His writing can only be used with care, keeping in mind the present day standards and encyclopaedic style. Your content is simply not of this kind. When somebody has already written a decent summary using the same source, to add anything new from it, you would need to argue each sentence individually. Since you are a new editor, I suggest you try your hand at other topics first instead of a weighty one like this. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3:, I am using Sarkar's source with carefully. Sarkar cross-checked lost of Parisian, EFR of Surat, Sabasad Bakhar and then wrote the book. I can't fully believe contemporary documents of 17th century and I don't have access to it. But the info I wrote is very important and I cross-checked it with writers like Grant Duff and its true. I suggest to restore my edits. The date of Mirza death is also wrong here and without any source. I add date with source. If you want something to change disscus here, don't directly remove info. I have citations, as I read Wikipedia allows published source for citation.Education is strength (talk) 09:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is not how Wikipedia works. The WP:ONUS for arguing for inclusion of new material rests on those who want to include it. And it requires WP:CONSENSUS. You do not have an automatic right to add whatever you believe is necessary.

By "contemporary", I meant current day. WP:HISTRS tells you that reliable sources for history need to be of modern hisotrical scholarship. Jadunath Sarkar is not. So you can't automatically include everything written by him. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:03, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your writing style might be suitable for a blog but not for an encyclopedia. That being said, the content is accurate to the best of my knowledge and deserves a line or two. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]