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medal claims need sources

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I could not find the name "Jagdish Bhola" in the list of medal winners at the 1991 Asian wrestling nor in the list of wrestling medal winners at any of the Commonwealth Games. Are there sources for these claims? If not, they should be removed. Would he have been listed under a different name? Papaursa (talk) 03:00, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if the subject is not listed in another Wikipedia article (Wikipedia is not a reliable source to verify this) or not. However, I think you might haven't checked the sources properly. Jim Carter 17:02, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I checked other sources besides WP and their results didn't mention ""Jagdish Bhola". That is why I asked if he had competed under a different name. I have found other instances where athletes were officially listed under variants of their name that may not match the WP article title. Papaursa (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As long as a reputed source mention him to have competed in an International event like Commonwealth and Asian games, our suspicions cannot compel the removal of the content. Jim Carter 20:35, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Even if other reliable sources showing the Commonwealth Games medalists don't list him? I'm just trying to make sure the information given is correct, but I'm not going to fight you over it. Papaursa (talk) 21:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please show me the list where Jagdish Bhola is not listed? I may help you someway. :) Jim Carter 21:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please see this. Thanks! Jim Carter 21:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The WP article claims he won a gold medal at the Commonwealth Games. The article you mention says he won a bronze medal in 1993, but the Commonwealth Games were held in Canada in 1994. See this [1] for the 1994 Commonwealth Games results. The article you quote also says he won a medal at the 1997 Asian championships, but I can't find his name there [2] either. So the WP article appears to have the wrong medals and the wrong events. Papaursa (talk) 01:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This speaks to the reliability of the online source and hence if the source is that wrong it should be removed. That said I suspect the alternate name that Papaursa is looking for is Jagdish Singh who indeed won a silver medal at the 1991 Asian Wrestling Championships not 1997 - which may be a typo or sloppy journalism. I have no direct proof but many Sikh adopt Singh as a surname but may also go by another - so Jagdish Singh is plausibly Jagdish Bhola. With respect to the Commonwealth Games the WP article correctly calls it the Commonwealth Championships but links it incorrectly - I changed that although I could find no proof that he won a medal there either. The commonwealth wrestling championships don't really have much importance outside a small subset of commonwealth countries but that is another issue.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:55, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]