Talk:Jack in the Box/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Monterrey Jack's

At least in the Seattle area, when they blew up Jack the clown in the early 80's, they also blew up all the restaurant's signs and changed the name of the restaurant to "Monterrey Jack's". The change only lasted a short time.

Unfortunately, the internet wasn't as popular back then, So it's hard to find online corroboration of the story, though I have found a few scattered postings supporting my memory on various message boards.

Jack in the box itself seems embarrassed enough about the situation to not even mention it in their official corporate history. I don't like that it has been taken out of the article, but perhaps an incident that only lives on in my memory, and a few other memories, doesen't belong on wiki? --Measure 13:19, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Weren't there once JitB in NYS too? J. M. 05:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I remember Monterey Jack. I think Ray Charles was a spokesman. They changed back to Jack-in-the-Box around 1986, I believe. Aep 21:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, from some information I could gather off the net, Monterey Jacks was only used in test markets, and not the whole system. St.Louis and Seattle were at least two of the Markets. I have found some pictures of wrappers and food containers from the store, but they are not my images. I do remember the Ray Charles ads "Then the burgers come from Monterey Jacks, That's right Monterey Jacks" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmy007 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad that other people remember Monterrey Jack's. I've found nothing online, and I was starting to wonder if it was a bizarre childrood dream. All I know is that they changed all of the restaurants in the St. Louis area, and changed them back six months later. If I recall, they had Ray Charles singing "Monterreeeey Jack" to the tune of "Hit the Road, Jack." Anyway, if we can find any sources for this, I'd love to put it in the article. Lovelac7 09:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The parent company of Jack in the Box, Foodmaker Inc. (present-day Jack In The Box, Inc.) planned to convert its restaurants to the name "Monterey Jack's" in 1984 in an attempt to appeal to 18-to-45 year old customers. Signs and packaging were changed, and a new Monterey Jack cheeseburger was added to the menu. The concept bombed miserably and never left Washington state. [[1]] [[2]] --69.119.1.206 00:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I remember the change -- there was a TV commercial showing the clown figure at the drive-through (where one would place an order) being dynamited. At that point, the stores removed the clowns from the drive-throughs. During the 1990s advertising blitz, "Jack" came back in his present form, the CEO with the big round plastic head. These days the food is a lot better than what I remember from back then, but that's just my opinion of course. Afalbrig 13:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

In the Phoenix area, there was at least one Monterrey Jack's but it was a separate restaurant (primarily seafood, hence the "Monterrey" name) and was not a replacement for Jack In The Box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.150.71.250 (talk) 21:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Monterrey Jack monicker survived in the form of a burger-- the burger that eventually became the Ultimate Cheeseburger. Same sandwich: two patties, two white and one American cheese slices.

Copyvio removal

I removed a bunch of material that appears to be copied from [3]. -- Kaszeta 20:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Jack in the Box should be deleted

It is of regional notability and is not known outside the area it serves, therefore it should be deleted.

That's quite ridiculous. I'm on the east coast and I've heard of Jack in the Box, plus they are the fifth-largest burger chain in the United States. There are far more articles that should be deleted than Jack in the Box!--69.119.1.206 00:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Worse still, there is no requirement on Wikipedia that Jack in The Box even be a national food chain. --Chris Price

Far too big to delete! I am from Australia and knew about it before I went to Hawaii and am busting to have it again. What I am saying is that it it is well known around the world.

wow..they have pver 45000 employees..you want all those people to be laid off...just because you can't eat there.. wow selfish.66.191.174.3 00:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

He's not saying he wants the food chain itself to be "deleted," just the Wikipedia article itself. Which is still a ridiculous notion; considering its thousands of locations.AlexHOUSE (talk) 17:54, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is far too big to delete. I grew up in the Philadelphia area and had heard of the chain, and when I visited California in 2005, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of their product. Also, Gino's Hamburgers, which had been defunct from 1982-2010, has its own Wikipedia page, and it was never nearly as large as JITB even in its heyday. Bill S. (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Antenna ball picture

Are we sure that the picture is actually of the Jack in the Box guy? I mean, I've seen those antenna things too but the picture we have doesn't match what I remember. It looks more like Frosty the snowman.--Erciesielski 17:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

They have many special versions for various holidays (Christmas, New Years, etc.) as well as for Sports Teams, and all sorts of other things. I would imagine this is one of those. It would be nice to have a picture of the "core" ball though.Cjosefy 12:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality Questioned

I'm questioning the neutrality of this article. Everytime something negative is stated about Jack in the Box, those making the claim are subtly condemned or it is implied that they don't know what they're talking about. It reads like a very slick corporate campaign job, where they don't want it to be seen that they are too supportive of Jack in the Box, but want to make sure that nothing bad is said about the restaurant chain.

Abdul Muhib 20:23, 10 September 07 (PST)

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Last edit

Sorry, forgot the summary. Reverted last few edits by 71.180.82.103. Unsourced and improperly formatted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lasdlt (talk • contribs) 02:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

And I guess I even forget to sign now. . .Lasdlt (talk) 02:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

rice bowl

Rice bowls were available in the Los Angeles area around 2000. How come Jack in the Box stopped making those? Can we make a food lits that includes foods that they do not offer anymore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sp0 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I, too, came to this page trying to locate info about a food that appears to have been dropped from the menu (the Acapulco Chicken Salad). And I loved the rice bowls. But I am not certain whether this information really belongs on Wikipedia, so I'll leave that up to others to judge. (That was a dang good salad, though.) Kilyle (talk) 10:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Emptying "Food Safety" section

I have emptied the food safety section. The lines "many people died" and "some of them children" are irresponsible at best and deliberately malicious at worst. I will not re-write it but I will delete this incredibly poorly written section should it re-appear. This time, do the damn research. The names, ages and location of all victims are publicly available........including in the work the author referenced. I have not, however, deleted it outright, as it IS a valid issue.

Do you work for Jack? Why do you not sign your post? Proxy User (talk) 18:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I am a business school student and in my class book there is a full page story on the questionable ethics of the company during the 1993 poisoning scandal. Some highlights include parent company Foodmaker first denying under-cooking food. Then blaming the problem on a supplier. Then lying about receiving updated food safety standards from Washington State health inspectors nearly a year previous to the poisonings. Then after the inspectors proved the company had been notified, Foodmaker blamed a nameless Vice-President for not forwarding the message and claimed to have "disciplined" him/her. After the number of children infected hit 450 with one dead and several in comas, Foodmaker offered to pay medical costs in return for signing forms waiving the right to sue. After the outrage that caused the company agreed to pay medical costs without anyone signing the waiver. The company's stock price in the first two weeks of February 1993 dropped 30% and the company put on hold plans open 85 new restaurants for 1993.

The section on Food Safety seems to be watered down at best. This is an important section if it is used as a case study for ethics in business. Unfortunately, the book we use is a composite of chapters from multiple text books and I do not have a source citation for this information. Otherwise, I would be adding this and more to the article. If anyone has the time(I am taking finals right now), please find the sources and improve this section. Thanks, 156.56.194.91 (talk) 21:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly. I am from the east coast and have never even seen a Jack in the Box, much less eaten at one, yet somehow I know that the first victim was six-year old Lauren Beth Rudolph who died three days after Christmas from hemolytic uremic syndrome. I definitely agree that one or more persons has been spinning this wiki article to make Jack in the Box look better. Sadly, to people outside of California, Jack in the Box may be more infamous than famous. Finally, I also went back to review the original chapter on food safety which was deleted in March of last year, and it wasn't as grossly untrue as that person maintained, mainly just underdeveloped and vague. While I am definitely against printing anything that is not the truth, or printing opinions, I believe that we owe it to Lauren Beth Rudolph and the three other children who died and the 600 people who were hospitalized, to keep this Wikipedia article honest.--69.140.33.198 (talk) 02:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

True story?

What is that crap about a gangster rivalry doing in here, and why can't it be removed?

Can anyone please give me the address of the oldest jack in the box I can go eat at?

If you are looking for the oldest stores, there are still many in the system. Exaclty which store I don't know, but try in San Diego, where they started. They still have many of the original "box" style buildings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.166.150.37 (talk) 14:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Early bancruptcy due to food poisoning scandals?

These restaurants were in the Chicago metro area in the late 1970's. People stopped eating at them because of a food posioning scandal (local/national?). The Chicago area restaurants all closed around 1980. I can't find any information on this, sorry.

Obscene?

Has anyone else noticed the "Jack in the Crack" text? Granted it is referenced (check out the references, however), but it is nonetheless obscene. I think it should be removed. Bigmac31 (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It is referred to as Jack In The Crack in the movie "Menace II Society" (1993) which is set in California. I am assuming it is a regional term. Minnesota cold (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't live in the JITB service area, but have friends there. I understand that "Jack in the Crack" is merely a playful corruption of the company's name, and is only meant to be slightly-disparaging even among those who enjoy the restaurant's product, and originates from rhyming slang. Bill S. (talk) 14:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)== Controversy ==

There was a controversy over the commercials back in 1980 (sic) showing the drive-through clown head and the larger clown heads on the main restaurant sign being blown up. The commercials apparently upset quite a few kids, and if I'm not mistaken, were discontinued before their planned run came to and end. I was just a kid, and I while I wasn't scared, I do recall that the commercials seemed really weird. I remember well the old restauarants with the looming clown head on top, the wrappers with a rather devilish looking "jack" on them (more like an evil jester than a kids' clown), etc. I lived in a rural area in Texas and remember driving into San Antone and seeing that big clown lit up at night, and then driving my parents crazy until they would stop there. 214.13.130.104 (talk) 11:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)TexxasFinn

Abuse

I removed some probable abuse under slogans:

Watch out Mac. Jack's Back! And we don't serve blacks!

I trunkated it to:

Watch out Mac. Jack's Back!

I cannot verify that this was ever a slogan, but at least it is no longer offensive.

Linda Lang is not a corporate CEO...unless supergirl is real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.146.101.24 (talk) 15:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Nationwide expansion

It's been known that the chain is eager to expand nationwide, but do we have a source for this "by 2010" tidbit? a company called bungeeamerica is doing commercials....they are based in southern california....watch for the new commercial in mar '10......the "jack" is mr. ron jones —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.179.92 (talk) 13:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC) == New Logo ==

Hey I'm putting this up for talk. Recently, Jack in the Box chains out here in So-cal have been replacing the older box, fry box/ wrapper designs with a new look. On top of that, all of them have a new logo. Quite different from the common Jack in the box one that has been around for years.

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I actually came across this logo myself earlier tonight. I found it kind of odd.

Just a heads up if anyone is interested in working on something about their testing on new logos. True sephiroth (talk • contribs) 07:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

the new logo made it's TV debut in an new Jack In The Box ad where Jack talks about his resturant and Burger King's Have it your way solgan, plus the new logo is on the Jack In The Box website too.--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk)3:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

(i'm the one who made that last comment, so i edited it to include my sig)--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

news

There was a Jack in the box in new jersey in the 1970s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.31.227 (talk) 22:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced Story Makes No Sense To Me

From the article: Another ad circa 2000 involved a man washed up on a remote island with only a Jack in the Box antenna ball as company. Later that year an aspiring director claiming the agency had appropriated his idea for the ad had his lawsuit against the ad agency thrown out; in fact, his sample ad had appropriated the campaign's already existing character, logo, and ending images (the dropping of paper bags) without permission. This is an unsourced story, but aside from that, I don't understand the last sentence. Why would you need permission to "appropriate" a campaign's character if you are making a spec commercial for your own personal use? And if the director made a speculative ad to show his skills as a commercial director, and the ad was remade without him, then certainly he'd have a valid complaint? I don't know. this whole thing is a little irrelevant for an article on a restaurant chain, and it's unsourced. --Replysixty (talk) 02:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Introduction of Tacos

The article states that Tacos were introduced after 1980. I worked for Jack-in-the-Box in 1978-79, and deep-fried tacos (and burritos) were menu items. They even had larger, more-condimented Supertacos. 96.35.156.22 (talk) 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC) One Brow

Copyright vio?

A lot of the material in the history section appears to have been copied from here[5]; page bears a copyright notice and since the differences are mostly things in the cited source that are deleted in the WP version, I think it's likely that their material was copied here rather than the other way around. Are we looking at a copyright violation here? —Rnickel (talk) 00:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Trans Fats

I read in the book Eat This, Not That that Jack in the box is actually the trans-fattiest restraunt in america. I was surprised that that fact it didn't show up here. It said that the Bacon Cheddar Potato Wedges have 13 grams of trans-fat. That is 6 1/2 times more than what is reccomended daily. I was wondering why someone didn't say that. 24.124.110.122 (talk) 13:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Not every single stat and food fact is notable for an encyclopedia. If Jack in the Box isn't notable for it's unusually high trans fat, then it shouldn't be in the encyclopedia.--Jojhutton (talk) 13:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)