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It's a waste of Wikipedia's resources to have the same conversation on every talk page, which is why there is a series of guidelines, such as the Manual of Style, where such elucidating entries as MOS:HYPOCORISM can be pointed out to and curious (and long-time) editors who can read what the actual policy is instead of edit-war and sanctimoniously hide behind bad-faith calls to BRD as an excuse to edit-war. Jack is a common hypocorism for John, this hypocorism is listed on the common nicknames page, and they are listed on the Wikipedia pages for each other as a common nickname derivation. Ergo, as my edit summarysaid, "common hypocorism readily apparent from birth name, unneeded per MOS" and the page should say "John U. Zuta" in the lede which is what is explicitly called for in the MOS. JesseRafe (talk) 13:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I draw your attention to WP:AVOIDYOU. Whilst traditionally Jack was traditionally one of the diminutives of John in England, it is not elsewhere, such as in Scotland where Jock is used. In Australia, Jack is a name in its own right and more common than John. (see Jack (given name)). To avoid confusion for some part of the English speaking world, "John U. Zuta" is not enough. Using the format of some of the examples given in MOS:HYPOCORISM, "John U. Zuta (February 15, 1888 – August 1, 1930) (commonly known as Jack Zuta)" is unambiguous. --John B123 (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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