Talk:Jack Seiler

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Please see my comments at WP:AN3 for an explanation of the lock and removal of the material.--Bbb23 (talk) 06:14, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 8 November 2014

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"In 2014, he supported and help pass controversial legislation banning the feeding of the city's homeless in public."

This is a pretty big deal and should be in the article. Check the net.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/arnold-abbott-florida-advocate-defies-law-against-feeding-the-homeless-1.2825917

74.15.151.14 (talk) 06:16, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This has become an even bigger deal. Please add the following sentence also:

On 13 November 2014 CNN reported that a 90 year old man and two ministers of religion had been arrested under these laws for handing out four plates of food to homeless people in a public park.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/justice/florida-feeding-homeless-charges/?iref=obnetwork

The first sentence is not adequately supported by the cbc.ca article. Please work on it.

The second is a fairly close paraphrase of CNN, but WP:LIMITED might let it fly. I'd suggest making it less of a close paraphrase.--Elvey^(t•c) 02:50, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 13 November 2014

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Most recently Mr. Seiler has caught the head lines for putting a 90 year old vet in jail. Why you may ask. Because this kind vet was feeding the homeless. For Shame Mr. Seiler. I hope you reevaluate your choices when representing the people you say you serve.

65.191.167.240 (talk) 14:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Declined

As the blocking admin said, please see {his} comments at WP:AN3 for an explanation of the lock and removal of the material.

While the sloganeer in me notes that starvation does seem a cruel and unusual punishment for the "crime" of homelessness, your suggested edit is not encyclopedic.

The the CNN-verificable stuff was deleted because it violated our rules on plagiarism. I don't see a problem with the first request above. Respecting NPOV is key. See WP:NPOV.

It may seem obnoxious and nitpicky of administrators to insist that this template be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, but them's the rules. If you want them to add something, it behooves you to create the content as you think it should appear, in a way that respects wikipedia's policies. Please do so! --Elvey^(t•c) 02:30, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The controversy over Arnold Abbot's charity organization is surely worthy of mention in the article. I would be willing to be everything I have that most people had not heard of Mayor Seiler until this controversy. There were protests outside his home in which he made comments supporting the law. [1]

This edit-warring needs to stop. Let's act like professionals. yonnie (talk) 16:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Declined

As the blocking admin said, please see {his} comments at WP:AN3 for an explanation of the lock and removal of the material.

While the sloganeer in me notes that starvation does seem a cruel and unusual punishment for the "crime" of homelessness, you need to provide a specific suggested edit.

The the CNN-verificable stuff was deleted because it violated our rules on plagiarism. I don't see a problem with the first request above. Respecting NPOV is key. See WP:NPOV.

It may seem obnoxious and nitpicky of administrators to insist that this template be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, but them's the rules. If you want them to add something, it behooves you to create the content as you think it should appear, in a way that respects wikipedia's policies. Please do so! --Elvey^(t•c) 02:33, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't know how this worked, I thought it was more casual. I don't think I should have to have a PhD to edit wikipedia. Hyberbole asid... I think it is sickening that this article had to be locked in the first place. Wikipedia is getting increasingly political and it is driving users away. yonnie (talk) 17:28, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I seek edits that articulate the Mayor's direct involvement over homeless policies. Please elt me know what sources would be considered appropriate in tying him to it.

Vegasthornton (talk) 18:12, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Declined

As the blocking admin said, please see {his} comments at WP:AN3 for an explanation of the lock and removal of the material.

While the sloganeer in me notes that starvation does seem a cruel and unusual punishment for the "crime" of homelessness, you offered no specific suggested edit.

The the CNN-verificable stuff was deleted because it violated our rules on plagiarism. As a SOURCE, it's fine, as is the sun-sentinel and cbc sources, I think. Respecting NPOV is key. See WP:NPOV.

It may seem obnoxious and nitpicky of administrators to insist that this template be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, but them's the rules. If you want them to add something, it behooves you to create the content as you think it should appear, in a way that respects wikipedia's policies. Please do so! --Elvey^(t•c) 02:36, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The other side

A couple sources that show another view: http://www.aleteia.org/en/society/article/media-reports-misleading-re-ft-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-feeding-homeless-5896572118237184

https://archiveDOTtoday/S6cB7

The mayor still seems to be a you-know-what to me, but we should still be neutral.

--Elvey^(t•c) 03:09, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion - Homeless. Gay rights.

I gave a shot at a new section on the homeless legislation and enforcement news.

Folks think this is worth adding? Could use a more canonical source; not sure if this news blog meets WP:RS:

Seiler supports civil unions with full benefits, but opposes gay marriage ^[1]

--Elvey^(t•c) 01:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2014/06/if-jack-seiler-runs-statewide-in-future-expect-tonights-fort-laud-commission-vote-on-gay-marriage-to.html

[1] ttp://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2014/06/if-jack-seiler-runs-statewide-in-future-expect-tonights-fort-laud-commission-vote-on-gay-marriage-to.html

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