Talk:Jacintha Saldanha
Notability
[edit]Currently we're developing a content fork at 2Day FM#2000s and King Edward VII's Hospital Sister Agnes.
- Obviously Jacintha Saldanha isn't a notable subject (per WP:BIO1E) and such an article would possibly attract edits linked to family members which would be subject to WP:AVOIDVICTIM considerations.
- Death of Jacintha Saldanha isn't notable either, per WP:EFFECT.
I'm just noting this here in the hope of pre-emptively explaining (to newcomers, rather than regulars) why it wouldn't be appropriate for such articles to be developed at the moment. -- Trevj (talk) 19:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Why create a redirect page?
[edit]I don't even think this page should have been created. She is merely metioned, nothing more. if I type in Jacintha Saldanha - or any other name - and I see that there is such a page, I expect to see a page with information ABOUT the subject, who he/she was, where he/she was born, etc etc. This redirect page is ridiculous. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- It's a valid search term. The existence of a redirect could also be considered a pre-emptive measure against someone creating an actual article. -- Trevj (talk) 21:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- That was the idea. Sandstein 21:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Trevj, Sandstein, point taken on the pre-emptive element of the redirect. As for the search term, I am certain most people will be looking up Kate and/ or the name of the hotel - especially it being a foreign name that most people wouldn't be able to spell. But all fair enough. Thanks for replying, have a great Sunday. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:20, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- As the media are bound to follow up her story (never mind how notable it is), people are going to come here searching for info based on her name. Bon dimanche, as they say! Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 12:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- Trevj, Sandstein, point taken on the pre-emptive element of the redirect. As for the search term, I am certain most people will be looking up Kate and/ or the name of the hotel - especially it being a foreign name that most people wouldn't be able to spell. But all fair enough. Thanks for replying, have a great Sunday. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:20, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- That was the idea. Sandstein 21:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Why do you think people should not be interested on the death of the nurse if they are suspecting of the very bizarre story that was told on the media? For instance, I know lots of folks that are interested to learn more about generalities of the victim (such as the place where she was born, etc.) in order to understand why she decided(?) to commit suicide. If it was another person related with the story instead of the British royal family, would you have the same treatment? From whom is Wikipedia afraid? If Wikipedia doesn't want to provide alternatives sources of information to current media, what is the interest of this service? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.81.8.201 (talk) 15:29, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- You misunderstand our purpose. It's not our mission to provide "alternatives sources of information to current media". On the contrary, we are limited to repeating information already reported in reliable sources, such as reputed media outlets. This is explained at WP:NOR and WP:V. These principles are not negotiable. For an explanation why we don't have a separate article about Ms. Saldanha, please see WP:BIO1E. This has nothing to do with who is involved in the matter (such as British royals). Sandstein 16:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- If Ms. Saldanha and her death are not notable according to your allegation in the beginning of this talk, why notables such as the singer Morrissey talk about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.81.41.18 (talk) 12:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe because the two radio DJs deserve a sainthood for having said they are sorry, so do not blame them. Someone else is at fault, and Morrissey knows that he is not it. Maybe he dislikes the fact that women tend to fall pregnant (Is it called to fall pregnant? How can that be correct English?). How did Morrissey find a radio station that would interview him, unless they are also polishing his boots? Since Morrissey has no humour, he believes it when someone says they are being funny. --85.164.222.94 (talk) 10:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
- If Ms. Saldanha and her death are not notable according to your allegation in the beginning of this talk, why notables such as the singer Morrissey talk about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.81.41.18 (talk) 12:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Radio station publicity
[edit]Looks like the redirect is for publicity for the Radio Station, the death is very fishy, and that needs to be noted in Wikipedia instead of her death been an advertisement on Wikipedia. We also need to find out, if she was killed for publicity, instead of stiffling her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.103.222 (talk) 05:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Did you read #Notability. The redirect isn't to an advert. -- Trevj (talk) 09:18, 12 December 2012 (UTC)