Talk:Jabari Parker

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Date	Process	Result
January 26, 2012	Peer review	Reviewed
February 7, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that when high school junior Jabari Parker held an open practice, Mike Krzyzewski, Bruce Weber, Thad Matta, Bill Self, Roy Williams and Tom Izzo all attended?

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Darryl Parker

It seems that older brother Darryl may be from a previous marriage according to this blog: http://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=728761 I can not confirm.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

We edit conflicted. I restored your improper citation removal and left your grammar changes. I present three refs for a point that they were ranked much of the season. I don't see how you can make this point with a single reference.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are far, far, far too many references in the Jabari Parker article. Compare Park to Paul Pierce: 43 in-line citations for a high school basketball player (several of which do not directly relate to Parker, but to his teammate or team) compared to 31 for a NBA finals MVP with a dozen or so years playing at the highest possible level. The incredible number of references for Parker is harmful to the article and distracting. Having three references to show his team was highly ranked or that his teammates are also strong players does not make the article better.--TM 06:42, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to copy the debate to Talk:Jabari Parker and continue there.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Above content all copied from User talk:Namiba.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Namiba (talk · contribs) has claimed that the current version of the article has too many references and has removed many references. The argument that Paul Pierce with only 31 citations is proper wikification is ludicrous. I was the first wikipedian to achieve 250 WP:GAs and until this month had the most in wikipedia history. I am somewhat of an authority on construction of this quality level article. A proper construction of Paul Pierce's life should have about 200 references. Nowadays, I mostly only do GAs that can get by with 50 refs or less, which limits me to mostly high school and college athletes. The problem is not that this article has too many refs, but that Pierce has too few.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad you have such a high opinion of your editing, but regardless of your so-called "authority", many of the references in this article are simply not necesscary. Three references to show his team was highly ranked during one year of high school is complete overkill.--TM 14:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of whether I really know what I am talking about, how can you look at the Paul Pierce article and present it as exemplary in any way. It has been about 4 years since that quality of an article was considered good on WP. Since you are not listening, I will repeat what I said above: "I present three refs for a point that they were ranked much of the season. I don't see how you can make this point with a single reference."--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jabari Parker/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Coemgenus (talk · contribs) 19:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC) No deadlinks or disambigs. I'll start the substantive review in a few hours. --Coemgenus (talk) 19:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The only things I'd change:

(1) In the lede, I think "before" is better than "prior to". It's more like people actually speak without being informal.
Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:47, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(2) In "Sophomore year": is it "the USA Today" or just "USA Today"? I know most newspapers use the definite article, but it seems like I've heard USA Today without it.
I could go either way. removed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(3) In "Junior year": I'd spell out state names, not use postal abbreviations, but I don't think it contravenes the MoS either way.
Spelled out.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(4) The article isn't consistent in how dates are written -- some are day-month-year, others month-day-year
I don't see any instances of this inconsistency in the notes.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:22, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It turns out there was only one instance, caused by a template. I fixed it. --Coemgenus (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Citations are plentiful.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
No POV in evidence.
In the last section "basketball training guru" seems an overly promotional description of Tim Grover. --He to Hecuba (talk) 20:39, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Seems stable.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
No images, likely none available that aren't copyrighted.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
OK, looks good to me. Passed. --Coemgenus (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cousins

If his mother is cousins with Haloti Ngata and he is cousins with Fili Moala and Sifa Moala, is his mother cousins with them as well.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spinoff

When this article gets to 60KB, we should spin off a separate high school career article and prune this back.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

High school content

I have begun trimming high school content from the WP:LEAD and have created User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Jabari Parker's high school career. I plan to go live with the HS career as a separate article once he gets to 60KB.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article is way too long. There is very little about his high school career that is that important and certainly does not merit a spinoff article. A 175kb article for an 18 year old is ridiculous. What is the article going to look like when he's 33 and in the NBA? 96.245.167.200 (talk) 03:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is currently 54166 characters of readable prose. This offseason, I will probably split the article, especially if it goes over 60KB of readable prose by then.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see what's so special about his high school career as opposed to, say, LeBron James or any other super talented player. It doesn't need to be split, it needs to be deleted. 96.245.167.200 (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jabari Parker's high school career

Now Jabari Parker's high school career is a separate article. Feel free to help me trim high school content from this article. I am having trouble doing it myself as it remains fairly long. I am still trimming it though.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sry, but I'm 100% with the anonymous editor's comment above. There's way too much fancruft (including stats, personal life etc.) in this article. Whole sections just devoted to his preseason actions and who he is compared to, even a lot of players that don't even play his position? Seriously? Imo, this what-did-he-do-and-who-said-what-about-it kind of listing arbitrary details has really gotton out of control. Btw, I don't know of any other player's career section that's been made into a separate article, let alone his high school career. --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to help trim Jabari Parker. I have split out all the detail to a separate article. Comments on Jabari Parker's high school career are welcome there, but I don't see it being trimmed to much.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good job

I just wanted to congratulate the editors who worked to improve this article by cutting much of the fat away. It could probably use a bit more tightening up, but compared to what this article was, the results have been impressive. Good job. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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He is not with the Milwaukee Bucks, he just signed a 2yr 40$ million deal with the Chicago Bulls. 95.128.190.132 (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Danski454 (talk) 16:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"High school career" section is way too long

Thankfully, the article on his high school career has been deleted, but the section about his high school career is still way too long. Do we really need to know the results of nearly every significant high school basketball game Parker participated in? What makes Parker so special as to have such a detailed documentation of his achievements in high school?

Right now, there is more article real estate devoted to his high school career than to his professional career. It needs to be shortened. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 06:23, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]