Talk:Jaanipäev

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Proposed merge with St John's Day (Estonia)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge on the grounds that the religious celebration and the secular one are independently notable. Klbrain (talk) 09:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the sources provided, these appear to be one and the same. The lone English source at Jaanipäev calls the holiday "St. John's Day", but I think the argument could be made that using the Estonian name is more appropriate given how the tradition purportedly predates Christianity and that it is much more familiar to Estonians who actually celebrate the holiday. I don't really care much either way, but having two separate articles about this subject is clearly unnecessary. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 05:22, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rosguill, this article on Jaanipäev (which has no references in it) was already merged into St John's Day (Estonia), but the same content fork was created again by an anonymous IP editor. I support a merge back into the original article. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 04:59, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to me like neither article has citations, although at least this article has external links to sources. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 05:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Anupam, this article on Jaanipäev has references in it and was merged wrongfully into St John's Day (Estonia) as they are a seperate thing, one is official govermental holliday of victory day and folk celebration of midsummer and the other is a religios day. They are in no way connected with eachother but the date and the history when it aka. Jaanipäev was tried to be changed to something else by some cristian higer ups but failed as Estonians continued these traditions.

"by an anonymous IP editor" it was me but i could not get into my account because of email provider problems.

Yes i talked to the Social Minister of Estonia last year in our family gathering at "Jaanipäev" celebration, asked about what what she is celebrating, she said the victory celebration and unity of the Estonians and family, when asked what do you know about "St John's Day", answer was "nothing" that it probably is some religious thing as it includes "Saint". I got the same answer from anyone i asked, tho the younger croud instead of "victory celebration and unity of the Estonians and family" they said, it's party time.

For one small group of people that day in Estonia is known by one thing St John's Day (Estonia),

For other people, absolute majority of people living in this country, that day Jaanipäev completly another thing.

User:Rosguill The External link 5 is a citation a Documentary on the Goverment tv about what is Jaanipäev and what it consists of, what is the traditions and what is the history. Please let me know if any more info is needed.

If there is need of more proof of what day is celebrated for in Estonia, me and anyone living here can give plenty of sources, a lot from official/govermental and news outlets and private sites.

Sadly 95% of the info is in Estonian, that's why this article is needed in English (Google translation and Google web translation can also help a lot if you need conformation).

As majority of people want to learn more about why people are celebrating that day in Estonia that is why Jaanipäev is needed and what is wikipedia about, to have/get information of something you want to know.

An Estonian Wikipedia page (it said it's not wiki link "Page does not exist", sorry i do not know how to link wiki articles in other languages) Jaanipäev _signed,KrK (talk) 05:32, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I've fixed the interlanguage links (on Wikidata) so that Jaanipäev links to the page of that name on the Estonian site. This was complicated by the fact that Jaanipäev on the Estonian page was linked to the broader Midsummer article. Klbrain (talk) 09:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect information ("Beginning" topic)

The proposed origin as a recreation of Kaali meteorite event by Lennart Meri has no evidence or basis and the book that it's from (Hõbevalge) is a strongly biased and knowingly romantized semi-fiction book. It's highly unlikely that Kaali meteorite event was the actual source for this Holiday.

Omittance of this information is very misleading. Please update it with appropriate context or remove it. 85.253.23.76 (talk) 19:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]