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This article confuses Swiss Italian and Swiss Lombard. I have fixed some absurd statements, but perhaps it should be deleted at all. Best regards --87.0.148.143 (talk) 15:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is ridiculous. It contains so many inaccuracies that it is probably best to rewrite it from scratch. For a start, it is not surprising that administrative jargon is different from Italy, as you would expect in (say) the UK and Ireland which share the same language too. Everyday terms are indistiguishable, the main difference with the language spoken in Italy proper being the accent and not the vocabulary. Only a few exceptions come to mind, such as "azione" which in Switzerland means "discount, promotion" and in Italy just "action". The table lists terms which would not be used when talking in proper Italian (as opposed to dialect, which is widely spoken in Ticino but is also felt as a completely different communication level). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amhainn (talk • contribs) 19:03, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the statements on Swiss Lombard, now the article should be strictly on Swiss Italian. The number of lexical differences with the Italian spoken in Italy is not trivial and most of those are borrowings from French or German, not from Ticinese (the Western Lombard dialects), borrowings from which are found in everyday speech, but not considered "proper" Swiss Italian. The article could be improved also with references to specific issues of Italian among other swiss languages, e.g. the decrease of students of Italian as a second national language in other parts of Switzerland (there are some informations on regard on the italian wikipedia page). Valhalla (talk) 20:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map

the map, on the right side is not correct. In facts, the Graubunden State has 3 official languages: Romanche, German and Italian. But the Italian, even if official, is only for the part of the state which is on the South of the Alps, along the Ticino State. For the rest, there is no way to hear or to speak italian. Unfortunately I have no idea about how to change this map — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ouzet (talk • contribs) 21:46, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comandare/ordinare

The English translation 'command' should surely read 'order' - the reference is to ordering food or drinks, which is 'ordinare' in standard Italian and 'commander' in French (and apparently 'comandare' in Swiss Italian, though I don't recall hearing it when I was in Ticino).83.163.73.142 (talk) 11:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss Italian and Italian

I corrected the introduction, since the swiss italian variety of Italian is spoken by the Swiss Italian population, while the rest of the Italian speakers (Italian immigrants and Swiss with Italian passport originating from Italy) which are twice as much as the native swiss speakers, speak Italian varieties of the language. Actually, this article should mainly deal with the swiss Italian variety of the language. Alex2006 (talk) 14:36, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]