Talk:It Takes a Village
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Trivia?
[edit]In case anyone wants to add it [too lazy atm] the book appears in the table in her official portrait if anyone wants to add it in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hillary_Clinton_first_lady_portraitHRC.jpg --OMG LAZERS (talk) 12:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Joelarpin (talk) 03:23, 13 May 2017 (UTC)==Criticism== Why is there no criticism section? A lot of family rights advocates attack this as socialism. 216.201.48.26 (talk) 21:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It says, "The theme of the book, at least as perceived from its title, aroused immediate opposition within the United States." Feel free to add cited specifics to that. Wasted Time R (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
There is no criticism section because this article in itself is clearly a biased criticism of Clinton, and not a page on the book itself. I am apolitical, but even I was able to detect a bias within the first few lines of this page. -name withheld. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.155.92.59 (talk) 18:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC) . . I just wanted to add my two cents here. I don't have sources to cite. I only wanted to state that I personally witnessed a high ranking World ambassador invoke this old African saying back in 1972. I went to the UN in 1972 on a 6th grade class trip. Several groups, mostly Boy Scout troops, met with an African Ambassador (I don't remember the country). I don't remember much of what he said, but I do remember this one saying that had a profound effect on me. "It IS the village that raises a child." His speech was on the importance of learning early, to become good role models for those who look up to us, and to those who rely on us. That there are nefarious elements in the community that will have an inevitable affect on a child's development. Those affects can be good or bad depending on how the parents guide the child's emotional growth. That comment that I remember actually goes like this, "It IS a village...but "IT TAKES A FAMILY to raise a child", It's a traditional admonition by a tribal Chieftain to a young couple after the birth of their first child that if they are derelict in their duties as parents, it will be the village that raises it". In other words, it's a warning, If you aren't pro-active in the development of your child, It will learn about life from the streets.Joelarpin (talk) 03:22, 13 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joelarpin (talk • contribs) 16:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Contents?
[edit]There's no outline of what the book specifically talks about. [21:09, June 24, 2008 204.249.208.24]
- So add it. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree, can't someone who's read the book give a bit more detail about the contents, themes etc? Otherwise, perhaps the article should be retitled to "Controversies Surrounding ``It Takes a Village" Anon, Fri Nov 28 10:23:39 EST 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.60.66 (talk) 15:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- This encyclopedia isn't written by "someone", it's written by you. So do it. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- My ghostwriter is on strike.72.201.19.165 (talk) 03:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
This is an odd and slanted article
[edit]It's not about the book--there's little description or analysis of the book itself. It's mostly about controvery. Seems like it should be retitled "It Takes a Village--Controvery." [19:25, May 27, 2011 50.80.231.195]
- See previous responses to the same point. Doing is better than complaining! Wasted Time R (talk) 03:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Yoruba
[edit]This part (misleadingly inserted into the ref to the mailing list, as if it were a quote from there) appears to be OR, and thus unfortunately difficult to verify, but it was certainly added in good faith, and is certainly interesting:
- The Yoruba people of Nigeria have a proverb which in essence means it takes a village to raise a child-"Enikan lo nbi omo, gbogbo eniyan lonto"-which means "It takes everybody to raise a child although the child has its parents". There is also another Yoruba proverbs which acknowledges that it takes a village to raise a child though the parents may not be happy with the raising! "Ba mi na omo mi, ko de inu olomo" which means "Help me to train my child by scourging her but the statement is not meant literally by the parent".
Sorry for removing this contribution from the article! --Florian Blaschke (talk) 18:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Igbo
[edit]Removing Igbo insertion from "Proverb question": was badly misplaced in the text, and cite flag has gone unanswered for many months. As with the editor above, I don't doubt its addition was in good faith, so I leave it here in hope of a more encyclopaedic treatment.
- It originated from the Nigerian Igbo culture and proverb "Ora na azu nwa" which means it takes the community/village to raise a child. The Igbo's also name their children "Nwa ora" which means child of the community. It has been in existence in Africa for centuries.
• Lainagier • talk • 02:51, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
"It IS a village...." My experience with an African Ambassador to the UN in 1972
[edit]. . I just wanted to add my two cents here. I don't have sources to cite. I only wanted to state that I personally witnessed a high ranking World ambassador invoke this very old African proverb back in 1972. I went to the UN in 1972 on a 6th grade class trip. Several groups, mostly Boy Scout troops, met with an African Ambassador (I don't remember the country, but Nigeria strikes a cord). I don't remember much of what he said, but I do remember this one saying that had a profound effect on me. "It IS the village that raises a child." His speech was on the importance of learning early, to become good role models for those who look up to us, and to those who rely on us. That there are nefarious elements in the community that will have an inevitable effect on a child's development. Those effects can be good or bad depending on how the parents guide the child's emotional growth. The comment that I remember actually goes like this, "It IS a village...but "IT TAKES A FAMILY to raise a child", It's a traditional admonition by a tribal Chieftain to a young couple after the birth of their first child that if they are derelict in their duties as parents, it will be the village that raises it". In other words, it's a warning, If you aren't pro-active in the development of your child, It will learn about life from the streets.Joelarpin (talk) 16:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC) Joel Arpin
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