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Its vs. It's

In every day English:

its = possessive form of the pronoun "it"

it's = contraction of "it is".

However, in this article, there is a character named "It". Thus, "It" is a proper noun.

Its = the possessive form of the pronoun "it" at the beginning of a sentence

It's = the possessive form of the proper noun "It" (or the contraction of "it is" at the beginning of a sentence).

If flashbacks to a harsh 6th grade teacher are giving you trouble here, write the proper noun "It" as "Bob", then change to "It" right before you hit save. - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:27, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To discuss this further, please weigh in (and vote) at Talk:It (novel)/Archive 2#Its versus It's, round three. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 06:23, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is at Talk:It_(novel)/Archive_3#Its_versus_It's,_round_three.

The consensus was to use "It's" as the possessive form of "It". In this usage, "It" is a proper noun. The English peculiarity of "its" as the possessive form of "it" is irrelevant. - SummerPhD^v2.0 21:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The kids named the monster "It". So - apart from Pennywise - we would refer to It's in the same way that we might refer to Pennywise's. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 00:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, this article retains legitimate uses of the pronoun "it" in reference to the character. Much as "When Bob goes to the store, he buys a loaf of bread." we could say "When It goes to the store, it buys a loaf of bread." - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:21, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"True form" issue unresolved

The sections above say that this issue is resolved. However, the article says: "...upon seeing its true form Audra Denbrough says..." and "...a final battle that results in It revealing It's true form" but it also says: "Despite this, the true form of It is never truly known." and "It's actual form is not precisely what the children actually see." These are contradictory. If we never know It's true form, the first two statements are wrong; but if its true form actually is spider-like, then the latter two statements are wrong. How is this "resolved?" (BTW, I've never read the book, so I don't know what's correct. I only see that the article is contradicting itself.) WaxTadpole (talk) 16:10, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification: The three sections marked "Resolved" are resolved by the section "IP editor from Finland". The only thing "resolved" about them is that there is no point in discussing the issue with that particular editor, given their repeated edit warring in support of contradictory assertions about It's gender/species/"true form" and their related I-am-right-everyone-else-is-wrong-no-sources-needed tone.

The topic is certainly up for discussion. I'm guessing there are direct statements in the book/miniseries/film that may provide quotable statements. The source should probably be attributed in-line as it is likely there are contradictions and/or shadings between the three works. - SummerPhD^v2.0 17:10, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are a huge number of categories associated with this article. I have never seen so many! I would guess they were motivated by a lot of the edits (regarding It as a female) made by IP editor from Finland. I am going to remove a number of them, as we don't know the true form of It other than what the book actually says, e.g. giant spider. Recall that the talk page sections marked Resolved by IP editor from Finland were not Resolved in any consensual way at all. User SummerPhDv2.0 seems to be well aware of the situation.--FeralOink (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Woh

There are no sources stating this production is in any way related to the Stephen King novel, the miniseries or the films. - SummerPhD^v2.0 01:18, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WRONG! https://www.freepressjournal.in/cmcm/flashback-remember-woh-the-indian-tv-adaptation-of-stephen-kings-it https://www.filmcompanion.in/indian-adaptation-of-stephen-kings-it-zee-tv-woh-1998-liliput-titular-clown-shreyas-talpade 2604:6000:130E:49B0:5E:D7BB:BA15:D6BF (talk) 03:53, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The characters in that adaptation have completely different names than the characters from IT. So mention of that film and it's own characters doesn't belong on these character articles as it is WP:OR. EnPassant♟♙ (talk) 13:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

.ièrtnem talålod meg? 84.236.31.5 (talk) 02:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Pennywise? [[Special:Contributions/2601:C2:34:1 5BE:3107:ECD7:86E:3D63|2601:C2:34:15BE:3107:ECD7:86E:3D63]] (talk) 01:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]