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Maybe I'm completely overlooking something very obvious (which I do hope I'm not), but I do believe that the claim the TokyoGraph source indicates, that Yui "is now just the third female singer-songwriter to achieve three consecutive #1 singles, after Yumi Matsutoya and Hikaru Utada" is false, because there definitely haven't only been three. For example, Ayumi Hamasaki has had seventeen #1 singles by the Oricon weekly chart, and later another seventeen. Even if we were to go all they way up to #1 singles by yearly charts, Hamasaki would have to be included in this group of apparently three with her 2002-03 singles H, Voyage, and &. Maybe the author of the news post mixed something up, or forgot to mention a crucial fact such as that maybe Yui was one of three artists from a specific city or prefecture, but as the post is right now, I do not believe it can be used as a reliable source. Eugeniu B +1 03:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The claim the article is making is very much true. Ayumi Hamasaki may have seventeen number-one singles but she did not debut as a singer-songwriter, just a lyricist. Yumi Matsutoya, Hikaru Utada and Yui debuted as singer-songwriters, meaning from the very start of their careers they composed and wrote their own songs. Hamasaki started to compose during her I am..., so this "honor" does not include her or any other female artists who didn't start out like any of the three. The author did not mix anything up. They simply translated the text from Japanese to English from the original source, which happens to be Oricon. And I have asked the RS noticeboard in the past if Tokyograph is a reliable source and they have Ok'ed the use of the site. MS (Talk|Contributions) 04:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously? That's... strange. In any case, that sentence is still technically incorrect because it doesn't say that she's one of three artists that have debuted as singer-songwriters. No, I never thought of TokyoGraph as an unreliable source in general, I just thought something was wrong with that information specifically. Does the oricon source actually specify the three artists as artists that have debuted as singer-songwriters? Eugeniu B +1 18:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

isnT it supposed to be

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2:46 or somethin? i don't think it's 4 minutes+ long... can anybody help me please 85.96.24.133 (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]