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Former good article nomineeIslamic views on slavery was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Revised paragraph on abolition in introductory section

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I have revised the paragraph on abolition in the page's first section because it was deeply misleading. It claimed that the bulk of abolition in the Muslim world happened after World War 1, and gave the impression that much of it happened in the 1960s and 70s. But this is simply untrue, and the countries the passage cited (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman and Mauritania) were marginal and unrepresentative. The largest Muslim countries, which were also the dominant ones politically and culturally, mostly abolished slavery before WW1, with a few following suit in the 1920s. I have revised the passage accordingly, adding references to the key secondary works on abolition in the Muslim world. (NB: Saudi Arabia may seem like an important Muslim country today, but that's a recent development produced by its oil wealth, before the late 20th century it was not significant either in population size or in political and cultural influence).

I have also re-worded the final sentence, which gave the impression that slavery is still officially condoned in the African countries listed. This is misleading - slavery is illegal in all of those countries, and the people who persist in keeping slaves are breaking the law. The logic of the former wording is never applied to western countries: there are documented examples of slavery in contemporary Britain, but nobody claims that this somehow shows that Britain hasn't really abolished slavery. It is illegal activity.

Lastly, I have corrected the first sentence of the paragraph, which was incorrect and did not reflect the cited source. North Africa was not a *source* of slaves for the Muslim slave trade, it was a destination. In addition, "west Asia" is misleading, because the areas from which slaves were taken extended well into what is normally considered eastern Europe (Ukraine, Russia, etc).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jb212 (talkcontribs)

removals of reliable sources

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Comparing these versions: [1] have we lost some reliable sources? Andre🚐 21:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of textual error in sixth paragraph of section one

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Replace improper apostrophe with a space in the following section: "With abolition of slavery in the Muslim world, the practice of slavery'largly came to an end". Text is found in the sixth paragraph of the first section, utilizing citation 27 Fishflame300 (talk) 22:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title

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"Slavery in Islam" may be more conveniet fot title than "Islamic views on slavery" on this page.NGC 628 (talk) 08:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated paragraph

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This section is almost entirely the same as in opening paragraph but with different sources.


The hadiths, which differ between Shia and Sunni, address slavery extensively, assuming its existence as part of society but viewing it as an exceptional condition and restricting its scope. The hadiths forbade enslavement of dhimmis, the non-Muslims of Islamic society, and Muslims. They also regarded slaves as legal only when they were non-Muslims who were imprisoned, bought beyond the borders of Islamic rule, or the sons and daughters of slaves already in captivity. Robynteague (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]