Talk:Islam in Argentina

Islamic Population

The text below looks way off any trustworthy statistic:

Today estimates of the Muslim population in Argentina range from 700,000 to three million, largely of Arab decent. The Argentina newspaper Calrine has said that converted new Muslims in Argentina now number 900,000, and if the Arabs and other Muslims are included, their number is estimated at three million

Have you tried to find the Census info as it is certainly way more reliable than the above numbers?

PMLF 04:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

First of all, here in Argentina theres no newspaper called Calrine, I think you're talking about Clarín. The information above is clearly wrong, the federal statistics' agency (INDEC) talks about 500,000 to 900,000 Muslim people. Nevertheless, the CIA investigations about extremist/terrorist organizations in the Triple Frontier are true facts. --OneEuropeanHeart 19:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

This INDEC info should be included in the article. As it is now it inflates a lot the amount of Muslims in Argentina...PMLF 05:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that being an Arab does not necessarily mean you are a Muslim. I don't doubt there are over 500,000 Arabs in Argentina, though most of these would be Christians (Maronites). And could someone explain what exactly is the notorious part about Islam in Argentina, that this edit has introduced. It says "Islam in Argentina is notorious compared with other South American states for the sake of saying it. Al-Andalus 06:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Khalil's Changes

The article, as it was, didn't cite any statistics or other sources of information aside from an obscure reference to an article in the newspaper, Clarin. I think the numbers cited are a more accurate reflection of the Muslim population, at least as far as statistical sources go.

Please feel free to make edits or changes as you see fit.--Khalil78 14:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll edit the changes slightly, but I feel wrong about those numbers since I know a lot of Argentines that are from Middle-Eastern descent (at least 200-300, and my wife between them) and aren't Muslim (most of my acquaintances are actually Jewish). There is a very sizable Sephardic Jewish community in Argentina, and most of it would be considered part of the Muslim community under these stats. What do you suggest we do here? Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 21:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the editing. I agree- I think the cited numbers (1-1.5%) are high as well, but were the only numbers I could find from what I deemed to be a relatively neutral source. I think even the source suggests, but doesnt provide, a smaller number. The numbers in the article, before I edited it, put the figures between 1 and 3 million. I personally think the number is probably closer to .5%, or about 175,000. I couldn't think of an appropriate way to suggest it, without sounding like I was pulling it out of thin air. Do you know any sources? I also think it would be helpful to discuss the Sephardim amongst the Arab Community. I would imagine most in the Sephardic Community probably identify today more as Jews than Arabs. Do you know any sources on Sephardim in Argentina?--Khalil78 02:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know of any written source other than AMIA, but we'll need to go into its archives to find something concrete. Other than that, you're 100% correct, all the Sephardic Jews I know identify themselves as Jews, but not as Arabs. Having said this, they still share a lot of cultural traits with them such as food (God, I love that Kibbeh). Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 15:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I took a stab at the changes we discussed. I inserted a sentence about the prevalence of Sephardic Jews amongst early Arab immigrants and their identification with the Jewish community. I also added another statistic with regards to numbers that i found from adherents.com. the source is out-dated- 1982, but I think it provides a good reference point, and also comes from a Muslim scholar, which adds a layer of legitimacy to using the smaller number. The 70,000 figure seems more verifiable, if slightly conservative. Let me know what you think or if we should revert back. Feel free to edit the language/ phrasing.--66.160.97.130 16:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the link is a 404, so I reverted back. OTOH, the intro para specifies that the info is inaccurate, putting all the reasons in the intro para is redundant. They are very well explained in the proper place although maybe they should be a little more prominent within the section. I just realized that I inadvertently removed the "Sephardic Jews" section as well, I'll replace it back. Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 20:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Terrorism section

I've restored the word "terrorism" to the title, as that's plainly what the section is about and what everybody calls it. I'm also requesting references, which should not be difficult to find, except for the "considerable anti-Arab sentiment". I haven't seen that myself, and I believe popular sentiment (outside the Jewish community) focuses on the responsibility of the government, the security forces and the judiciary, for their unwillingness to investigate and the perceived cover-up of the investigation's findings. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 02:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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The Manifestation of Islam in Argentina

There is an article in The Americas [Vol. 53, No. 1 (Jul., 1996), pp. 67-85] that may be useful in fleshing out this page: "The Manifestation of Islam in Argentina" available on jstor. 2601:243:2200:60E:A812:40F2:7EBB:5F28 (talk) 18:56, 23 December 2019 (UTC)