Talk:Isaac B. Desha

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Date	Process	Result
January 10, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Isaac B. Desha was twice convicted of murder and sentenced to hang before being pardoned by his father, Kentucky Governor Joseph Desha?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Sven Manguard (talk · contribs) 23:07, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GAN Quicksheet 1.23 SM
(Criteria)

Starting comments: ...so, politics as usual?

1. Well written: Section acceptable

a. prose/copyright:

Acceptable

b. MoS compliance:

Acceptable

2. Accurate and verifiable: Section acceptable

a. provides references:

Acceptable Assuming good faith on the sources that I couldn't get access to through Google books.

b. proper citation use:

Acceptable

c. no original research:

Acceptable

3. Broad in coverage:

a. covers main aspects:

Needs work

There is one thing that I think needs to be cleared up before this is promoted. Desha is listed as having one child in the infobox, and the article describes his wife was pregnant when she decides to leave him due to his behavior. No mention of the child being born or the wife is ever given again. Was that the one child? Was there a divorce? Obviously the murders are the main topic of interest, however if the family is going to be covered, I think it should be covered a tad more completely.

None of the sources I consulted gave these details; believe me, I looked. I'll try to do a bit more digging to see if I can find anything. May take a few days, since all my GACs got reviewed at once. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 16:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No rush. Let me know what you find once you get to it. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First, the good news. All of the poking around led me to a birth date for Isaac Desha, which was previously missing, so bonus. Unfortunately, I didn't find much in the way of reliable sources to answer your questions. I did find this on RootsWeb. It would appear that Desha only had the one child, Margaret Bledsoe Desha (same name as his mother). I can only assume this is the same child that Cornelia was pregnant with when she left him. No mention of a divorce anywhere; I suspect she just left him and never took care of the formalities. RootsWeb does list a second marriage for Cornelia, but it could have taken place after Isaac's death. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 16:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you think of any way to incorporate that information into the article, or is there simply not enough information? I really do think that that's the kind of thing that warrants inclusion. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I could probably work it in; the issue is the source. I don't think RootsWeb counts as a reliable source. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 14:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

b. focused/on topic:

Acceptable

4. Neutral: Acceptable

5. Stable: Acceptable

6. Image use: Section acceptable

a. license/tagging correct:

Acceptable I've added in two images of parties to the affair, and they're both alright.

b. relevant/properly captioned:

Acceptable

7. Additional items not required for a GA, but requested by the reviewer:

a. images that should have alt texts have them:

Acceptable

b. general catch all and aesthetics:

Acceptable

Comments after the initial review: Just one issue. Rarely do I find nothing that needs tweaking in these things, but lately I've been getting ones that don't need a great deal of fixing. This is no exception. If all of them were this painless, I would do this more often. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to go ahead and promote this. I think that the author has made a reasonable effort to get that last piece of information, and it hasn't been forthcoming. While it'd be nice to have in, it's not vital to our understanding of the subject. If someone finds that information, by all means it should be put in, but I don't think there's anything more that can or needs to be done at this point. That makes this a GA in my book. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:42, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]