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Mistakes on the chart

I don't see how we can modify this flow chart. And knowing Wikipedia, someone would blow away the changes if I submitted them anyways. However, I'm assuming decomissionning (several entries) should read decomissioning. Additionally, I would highly recommend correcting the capitization. Some phrases are capitalized, some are not, sometimes it is Irish, sometimes it is irish. It has me strongly questioning the validity of the chart in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.168.19 (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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After making some changes to the This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects section above, I realized that I should ask for discussion about the changes here. Please discuss the changes above, and say whether is any problem or not.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:30, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Class?

The article appears as a "Set index article." How and why is this a set index article? Maybe it should be something else.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IRA funding

In approx 2007, in a press release from the White House press room, the head of the department of defence officially admitted that the CIA had funded the IRA, but clarified that the CIA weren't funding terrorism and that the money given to the IRA by the CIA for decades was a bribe, that they bribed the IRA not to set bombs off in or nearby US businesses such as McDonalds, and not to set bombs off where US tourists and US businessmen frequent.

This info should be in the wikipage, just needs someone to source it. HardeeHar (talk) 13:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. So they were funding and abetting terrorism, thus they should self-arrest.

Zezen (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The IRA were not terrorists. Nepixjohn (talk) 00:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bias and unreferenced claim reverted again

The changes made are not a neutral summary of the Provisional Irish Republican Army or Provisional Irish Republican Army campaign articles, are unreferenced, and on the critical point is contradicted by as reliable reference. IRA, The Bombs and the Bullets: A History of Deadly Ingenuity by A.R. Oppenheimer (ISBN 978-0716528951) states: Bombs, the IRA's chosen means of attack, have long been the most indiscriminate of weapons, whether used by terrorist groups or dropped from planes on cities. But on the whole the organisation avoided civilian casualties as far as possible within the frenetic mayhem of urban and rural insurgency warfare, a situation in which civilians will always get caught up in the conflict. This does not excuse the misery and injury it caused, as this strategy often went wrong, but may begin to explain it. The IRA did not target non-combatants, but there were civilian targets - individuals in or connected to the British government, royal family, judiciary and other establishment figures. Otherwise, chief targets were members or associates of the British forces and security services. FDW777 (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New IRA

I've recently created a article draft for the New IRA. Feel free to contribute to it. Charles Essie (talk) 19:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chart removed

While it starts off ok, post 2000 things get very messy very quickly. At present it details the following, which isn't even comprehensive but I'm just dealing with the main problems

Provisional IRA - organisations that split from it are Real, Continuity and another group calling themselves simply the IRA (called Provisional IRA dissidents (2011–present) in this article
Real - split into Óglaigh na hÉireann, New and rump Real faction
Provisional IRA dissidents (2011–present) - didn't split into anything
RAAD - came from nowhere, merged into New
INLA - split into IPLO

However, the reality is much more complex and is covered at Provisional Irish Republican Army#Splinter groups (which is properly referenced)

Óglaigh na hÉireann (which split from Real) also included ex-Provos and ex-INLA
Provisional IRA dissidents (2011–present) - joined with RAAD and Real to form New
RAAD - included ex-Provos

I don't even know what variables I'd need to change to incorporate all those, and I think these details would be better off detailed in text alone. The number of lines involved going in different directions would be a nightmare anyway (although if someone can prove me wrong, please do so). FDW777 (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the timeline template (often seen for band members) would work here? I'll see if I can come up with something (will first publish here, not on the article). SQB (talk) 07:14, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Something like this? I've only included a few organisations and events, and I respect that the start and end dates may be disputed; it's just to see if it would work.SQB (talk) 09:36, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fianna Neutrality: Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael

Fianna Fáil are described as the second-largest party in Ireland and Fine Gael the third-largest in the Republic. As Finna Fáil doesn't organise in the North, this makes the text unbalanced and not neutral. I would propose "largest party in the Republic" for Fianna Fáil to restore parity. I'm also going to dispute the neutrality of the article until this matter is resolved. Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 14:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2020 election in the South: FF 38 seats, SF 37, FG 35. Billsmith60 (talk) 15:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]