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A fact from Iona Allen appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Iona Allen, "the only one to ever make a perfect pair of boots", constructed the pair worn by Neil Armstrong on the Moon out of thirteen layers of precisely fabricated material?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iona Allen.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Neil Armstrong wearing the boots created by Iona Allen

... that Neil Armstrong's boots (pictured) for his famous moonwalk consisted of thirteen layers of precisely fabricated material, constructed by Iona Allen, "the only one to ever make a perfect pair of boots"? Source: Ayrey, Bill (2020). Lunar outfitters: making the Apollo space suit. Florida: University Press of Florida. pp. 66–67, 124. ISBN 9780813057606.
Wilson, P. (1999, July 25). ILC employees gather to remember Apollo. Delaware State News (Dover, DE). Retrieved from NewsBank: Access World News – Historical and Current.
- ALT1: ... that Neil Armstrong's boots (pictured) for his famous moonwalk consisted of thirteen layers of precisely fabricated material, constructed by Iona Allen, who also worked on EMU suits for the space shuttle program? Source: Ayrey, Bill (2020). Lunar outfitters: making the Apollo space suit. Florida: University Press of Florida. pp. 66–67, 124. ISBN 9780813057606.
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Created by Oughtta Be Otters (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Looks mostly good. No QPQ required and the image should work. ~~I was a bit confused by the sentence Allen was born in Virgina in 1937, and names Iona Tolliver. Could you clarify what that second part means?~~ Prefer the ALT0 hook. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There was a typo in referring to Tolliver as her birth or maiden name. I've revised that sentence for clarity. Thanks very much for the review. ProfGray (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should be good then. Assuming good faith on the offline source used for the hook. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking a look. Lunar Outfitters: Making the Apollo Space Suit is available in Google Books -- I would search for her name and the title before clicking over to Google Books to see the pages in question. I am trying to determine if any of the databases in the Wikipedia Library have access to the Deleware State News. Will let you know if I find one. Thank you for your consideration, Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 22:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't seem to be working for me – but I'm fine assuming good faith on the sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you for all. Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 02:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

Oughtta Be Otters, could you please add a reference for her date of birth? What's referenced is "1937"; what needs to be referenced is "May 17, 1937". Schwede 66 19:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I hope I solved the problem that you asked for, by also adding the citation from the first sentence to the birth and death dates in just after her name. The Delaware State News obituary states:

" Iona Allen of Lincoln died after a long illness Tuesday, July 15, 2003, in her home. She was 66.

"Mrs. Allen was born May 17, 1937, in Virginia."

so I cited it for all places her date of birth is mentioned. Please let me know if I am still missing something? Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 22:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recognition

I feel as though a photo of Iona herself might be appropriate, rather than only images of her work (Which aren't very close-up, you can't appreciate the artistry). The article comes off more as being about the quote rather than the person. ThanearPeake (talk) 07:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to say the same thing. A photo, if it were possible, would be a really good addition to this excellent article. DBaK (talk) 08:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked and looked for one with rights allowing uploading to Wikimedia Commons. If anyone can find one, I would be beyond delighted. Considering writing the publisher who holds the rights to all pictures I found, but have not had time. Please feel free to jump in if you have capacity! Regarding the work she did on the boots .... he left them on the moon, as I understand it, so I also was unable to find a closeup shot. I would love anyone who has perferable images to swap them out. Thank you!Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 12:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I hope someone can find something. Amazing about the boots still being up there! Cheers DBaK (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]