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Since this highway has been proposed to travel in both North Carolina and Virginia, would it be possible to move the page to a better title, such as "Interstate 44 (North Carolina–Virginia)" (unless there is a better title)? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Already done. In the future, Morriswa, you shouldn't propose merging an article to a redirect. That produced extra edits to the redirect that prevented a move. (If the redirect's history is only the creation of the redirect, then an administrator isn't needed to move the page over the redirect. Proposing a merger tagged the redirect, which also broke it, and prevented a direct page move.) Rather, you could have done a WP:RM, or just moved the article.
I'm totally confused as to what you meant by that. Can you please explain more simpler for someone like me. I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but I don't understand. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 03:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You proposed that this article should be merged with a redirect. There was nothing to merge on the other page because it was a redirect. A merger is when you want to take two articles and put parts of them together to make one article, like merging History of the Massachusetts Turnpike into the history section of Massachusetts Turnpike.
What you wanted was to request a move, from "Interstate 44 (North Carolina)" to "Interstate 44 (North Carolina–Virginia)". That could have been done much more easily, either by just moving the article boldly, or by requesting a move (see WP:RM). What you wanted was a different process.
When you used the merger part of Twinkle, that edited the redirect, which complicated things. Let's say you have two titles, "I-50" and "I-60", and the "I-60" title redirects to "I-50". The software will let you move "I-50" to "I-60" if the redirect has never been edited. This is called a "page move over redirect". If the redirect has been edited at some point, the software can't do the move because it thinks you're trying to replace one article with another. To do the move, you have to convince an administrator to delete the redirect so the move can be finished.
I had to have an administrator delete the redirect (and its talk page) just so I could move this article (and its talk page) to this title. If you didn't request the merger, I could have done it all myself. (Also, every time you start adding categories to uncategorized redirects, you edit the page and prevent a possible page move over the redirect. Imzadi 1979→05:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
