Talk:International serial murder

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This article reads like a term paper completed by an illiterate. Sprinkled with apparent original research to boot. Its most central problem: using "international serial murder" as an antonym for "US serial murder" both is weirdly US-centric and misleadingly suggests homogeneity among all other countries. D+; please see me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.227.237 (talk) 20:39, 22 April 2010‎

Methinks this article has been highly vandalized

Particularly the description of victims as "subhuman or vulnerable"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.209.144.152 (talk) 17:59, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Lead sentence, OR, and International serial murder is...

I object to the first sentence in the lede:

International Serial Murder is the phenomenon of serial murder that takes place anywhere in the world.

Just because this definition might seem obvious, doesn't mean it doesn't need a source reference. In fact, from its very obviousness, it reads very much like something some WP editor made up, assuming s/he couldn't possibly be wrong.

Nuh-uh, does not work like that--that's WP:OR. This statement needs a reference. Do experts in serial murder actually use the expression, "International Serial Murder"? If so, then finding a reference should be easy, and everyone's happy. If they don't, the first sentence should be struck, and possibly the article should be renamed. Mathglot (talk) 07:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

There's another problem with the definition. The way it's currently worded, it appears to be the same as "serial murder" and we don't need a separate article for it. If it had a different definition, let's say, something like "a serial murder spree in which victims were recovered in more than one country" then perhaps a separate article by this name might be justified (if its content were not covered in the main article, although a merge might be better in that case) but there's no claim that it means that. So what is this article doing here? Mathglot (talk) 08:04, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

And then the article goes on to say, that Similarities between international serial killers and United States serial killers... implying that international serial killers are serial killers not in the United States. That makes this section name and the one that follows contradict the lead sentence of the article. This sentence should probably therefore be rewritten as, Similarities among serial killers within and outside of the United States.... This article looks self-contradictory, and nearly hopeless. Can anyone see a way to rescue it? Or should it just be merged into Serial killer? Mathglot (talk) 08:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Hopeless

I was going to try to continue making point by point comments on how to improve this article, but it is truly hopeless. The "Multiple Issues" template added in 2009 is still accurate, right down the line. Making recommendations here, would take five times the text length of the article itself to describe and justify.

I'm going to recommend this article for Merge. I doubt there is much content here that can be saved, perhaps a sentence here or there can be moved to the main article. Mathglot (talk) 08:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

This article is a great example of everything wrong with wikipedia. Djgranados (talk) 18:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I've redirected, if anyone can find anything of use they may merge at a later date. Fences&Windows 18:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)