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The above tag is added because, like it or not, Wikiproject Paranormal has decided to adopt Cryptozoology articles as part of its improvement effort. --InShaneee 15:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, how ridiculous. There must be some line that can be drawn in what a WikiProject can take over — there'd be hell if, say, WikiProject Warmongering decided to adopt articles about U.S. Presidents — but I'm not in the mood to start a fight over at the WikiProject Paranormal talk-page, so I guess this one can stay. Ruakh 19:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiprojects can claim whatever they want, actually. There is no such thing as 'jurisdiction'. --InShaneee 20:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really a problem of jurisdiction — I don't mind that there's a WikiProject that's adopted this article — so much as a problem of classification: WikiProject Paranormal, by having the name paranormal and by adopting this article, has implicitly classified elusive animal species as paranormal. Ruakh 22:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Might be worthwhile having a look at WP:OWN. Nobody really needs permission here to add a wikiproject tag. Hiding Talk 21:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Might be worthwhile having a look at what I wrote. I'm quite aware of WP:OWN, and don't feel any particular attachment to this article. Further, I didn't suggest that anyone needed permission to add a WikiProject tag; I just think it's ridiculous, and misleading, to classify elusive animal species as paranormal. Ruakh 22:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I think it's bad form to insist that a POV is fact. Hiding Talk 23:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but I don't know what POV I've insisted is fact. I welcome your viewpoint, if you're willing to give it. Ruakh 03:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I'm sorry that I was snippy with you in my earlier comment; it wasn't warranted. (I hadn't meant "I guess this one can stay" as my giving permission, but rather as a fairly literal statement of fact — I was contrasting it with if WikiProject Warmongering adopted U.S. Presidents, which would certainly raise enough hell that it wouldn't be able to remain the case — but I see how it could sound like I was saying I was giving permission.) Ruakh 03:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just try to look at it this way: #1, it's on the talk page, so no one but other editors will see it, and #2, having it in ANY wikiproject means that more attention will be drawn to its needs. --InShaneee 16:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but it will get attention from paranormal experts, not cryptozoologists. I dunno, it is quite odd to see it on the edit page SamWhite 00:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find the above template on every Cryptozoology article out there (or at least, we're working on getting it there). The main reason for that IS to get Cryptozoologists on board. --InShaneee 14:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific Organization Stub?

Shouldn't this article be changed from a "scientific organization stub" to a "cryptozoology stub?" Just a suggestion. Nineteenninetyfour 21:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, as soon as I finish tagging all the articles for the Cryptids project, I shall go through with all the appropriate stub templates as well. Badbilltucker 23:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note new CZ group

The International Cryptozoologial Society is located at http://www.internationalcryptozoologicalsociety.org and is run by Wikipedia-lister Jon-Erik Beckjord

Please take note. Thanks.

Beckjord —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.111.90 (talk) 20:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be a registered domain name business. Nothing of interest as of today.Chemical Engineer (talk) 13:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note [Another] new CZ group

Autochthony writes; have today been made aware, through the main article, of the (New) International Society of Cryptozoology. Their webaddress is - http://www.internationalsocietyofcryptozoology.net/ Notable factoids include the age of their members is fairly young; the apparent lnking to the [now-defunct [1984-1998)] ISCz; and the links to the Socity's new sponsor's day-job. Autochthony wrote - 2101 Z 16 August 2011. 86.155.192.82 (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The "new" ISC group was inappropriately formed by R. Walker. After the details regarding possible copyright infringement and monies owed for outstanding contracts were aired at my blog posting here (http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/isc/), Mr. Walker took down his website and all existing FB pages on this "organization."

Someone needs to redo the Wikipedia page to reflect this. ~ Loren Coleman, Director, International Cryptozoology Museum, Portland, Maine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.255.245.215 (talk) 21:48, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Material removed; it wasn't particularly well referenced anyway. Simon Burchell (talk) 23:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Web Resources

moved from article as more appropriate to discussion page Chemical Engineer (talk) 20:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Web researchers interested in the history of the society will find about a thousand Google.com links containing the phrase International Society of Cryptozoology. Note the use of the preposition of — not for — in the name. But a researcher may have trouble locating source material from the society’s website.

A search of Google.com, Archive.org and the "Whois" domain lookup engine at NetworkSolutions.com indicates a website existed for the society. The site name internationalsocietyofcryptozoology.org is registered to the International Society of Cryptozoology in Tucson, Arizona, with administrative contact listed as Richard Greenwell. Domain name was created on "19-Mar-2004", with expiration date of "19-Mar-2007".

As of this writing (November 19, 2006), a user attempting to access the site is stymied by an ISP placeholder page. Luckily, archived pages are available at Archive.org through this Internet Archive link. Only two entries in the archive are relevant: the first entry on July 30, 2004 and the September 29, 2004 update entry. All other entries are duplicates or consist of the placeholder page. The last entry containing society content is listed as November 30, 2005, with the placeholder page appearing as the next entry, dated December 10, 2005.

The copyright date on the archived pages is "2003-2004" and many of the links there are broken. Fortunately, links to the purpose of the society, members and honorary members are in the archive. The member listings should be a good source for further research into the history of the society.

Not my text, I just moved it. Chemical Engineer (talk) 20:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]