Talk:International School of the Sacred Heart
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October 2009, the principal of the kindergarten-junior school, Shirley Lane,was arrested for smuggling marijuana into Japan [1]. In December, the Judge postponed their sentence[2]
People have been going back and forth on that article. It's kind annoying. I think it should be there because its a "fact" that this lady was arrested... The only reason anyone would want to delete it is if they're using this Wiki page as a promotional tool —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew319 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC) I just wanted to add, please refer to this page [1] as I feel it is important for this article to note.
What Shirley Lane did had nothing to do with the school. Nothing. It just so happens that she was employed there. I have deleted this entry and will continue to do so. My motives have nothing to do with promoting the school. I suspect, however, that the reason you keep reporting this is that you have an ax to grind against either the school or Shirley Lane. It is very odd that someone feels the need to go out of their way to post negative information about a school simply because an employee of the school has committed a crime totally unrelated to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.117.165.65 (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
About the concerns of notability: This school exists, it is essentially the leading British school system style institution for expatriate girls in Tokyo. It has a counterpart for boys called St. Mary's.
The SHIT acronym is actually true, it was changed in the late 70's. As for sources, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not the author, I'm just lending support for the article's existance. I suggest the article remain, but be tagged as poorly sourced and poorly written for now.
The SHIT acronym is definitely made up. Also, neither Sacred Heart nor St. Mary's follow the Briish school system. I have had children at both and know this for a fact.
I recommend ASIJ as an adequately written and appropriately scaled article on a very similar subject. As an aside, Jimmy Wales himself visited ASIJ recently. 67.180.193.148 08:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I visited the ASIJ page and found that it was indeed very well done, I have tried to emulate that to some degree with my contributions. I am having some difficulty adding images but I will persevere. I can also add that the "SHIT" abreviation for Sacred Heart in Tokyo was true, but is it worth mentioning for any reason other than it is a curse word? Would any other rebranding 30 years ago be mentioned so explicitly?
With respect to references, it is hard to find external sources for statements which are well known to be true within the school, I can cite every page of various prosepectuses but does that solve the problem?
Many Thanks.SacredHeartTokyo (talk) 02:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
POV concerns
[edit]A fine article, long and detailed. But some parts read as though they were written by someone promoting the school, rather than by an objective outsider. The entire Philosophy section reads like the kind of thing one would find on the school's own website. These elements may be factual, but they need to be represented as subjective matters, expressed from the point of view of the school, not as objective facts (i.e. "The school describes its philosophy as..." rather than "the Sacred Heart system is better than other systems because it focuses upon the whole person, intellectually, spiritually..."). LordAmeth (talk) 13:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
You are right in this resepect and while I tried to keep the information that particular section does seem biased and at the moment and too promotional. I will go over the section and try to come up with a more subjective viewpoint. I would like more information as to why the article only has a "Start" rating? Is it entirely down to the POV concerns? I appreciate your continued input.SacredHeartTokyo (talk) 04:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The wording in the "About the school" section which reads "... warmly welcomes students and families from many faiths" does sound promotional rather than NPOV. It apparently is a copy-and-paste from a February 2007 edit here[2], which wasn't present in Wikipedia at the same time here [3].—Tokek (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The SHIT acronym is most definitely NOT correct. I attended this school from 1960-1963. Part of our uniform was a badge with the school's correct acronym on it: ISSH, for International School of the Sacred Heart.
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