Talk:International Boxing Association

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Apparently, the logo (Image:Aiba logo.JPG) shown at this article is obsolete; Image:AIBA logo.JPG is the recent one [2]. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Competitions

Should add inactive competitions of the past:

• AIBA International World Championships Challenge
• AIBA World Cup
• etc.

93.73.36.17 (talk) 17:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2019

Please change X to Y.

In the Infobox, change President Gafur Rakhimov to Acting President Mohamed Moustahsane in the Infobox. 47.213.232.81 (talk) 08:36, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Key figures

In chronological order:

• Lt. Colonel R. H. Russell
• Colonel Don Hull
• Anwar Chowdhry
• Wu Ching-kuo
• Caner Doganeli
• Gafur Rakhimov

93.74.129.41 (talk) 15:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Logo

I know very little regarding uploading images (and don't care to learn), so can somebody with experience update the logo? Cheers. – ².O.^Boxing 12:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Please reflect ..

On March 4, 2022, in reaction to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the IBA banned athletes from Russia and Belarus from competing in international competitions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2143:8500:75CC:FA8E:D0EC:5CD (talk) 04:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

References

"African Boxing Confederation" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect African Boxing Confederation and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 19 § African Boxing Confederation until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Obvious bias

The complete lack of explanation as to why this organization isn't considered trustworthy by other sporting bodies comes across as embarrassingly biased. It's expulsion by the IOC is reduced to a sentence. 2607:FEA8:2901:4E00:3AE9:D16:E94D:583C (talk) 14:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes this is quite obviously a bias article, primarily of anti Russian origin. The IBA is clearly a boxing federation, many boxing federations are not part of the Olympics. The IBA hosted the world championships just last year. The IOC is not in charge of who is a federation. The WBA is a federation with no IOC links. At the end of the day, the IOC is only in charge of the Olympics themselves. Liger404 (talk) 21:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Consider adding details of chief exec

This isn't an article, sport or topic that interests me greatly, but I'm reading about today's (Friday 2 August 2024) controversy at the Paris Olympic boxing. A BBC article quotes the Chief Executive of the IBA (Chris Roberts). The WP article at present details the current and former presidents of the IBA. I wonder if it might be useful to include some details of the Chief Executives (past & present), since it looks to me like the Chief Exec is an important public face & spokesperson for the IBA organisation. From my limited exposure to the IBA (as of today), I get the impression that the fact that the organisation is based in Russia might be a pertinent factor in the sporting, social, cultural & political happenings of today, and of the past few years. Therefore I for one would be interested to read more about the key figures (i.e. the Chief Exec), their nationalities and their backgrounds. Flusapochterasumesch (talk) 17:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Terrible bias.

This article needs a full re write by someone who is not currently entrenched in West Vs Russian geopolitics. The suggestion that IBA is not a boxing federation anymore is absurd given they hosted the world championships last year and have agreements with well over 100 countries and many federations including the renowned WBA. Other comments like "linked to Putin" are completely out of place. This is a sports federation and making comments about them having completely unreferenced links to politicians the writer doesn't like is entirely inappropriate. Liger404 (talk) 21:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Shameless political propaganda

Wikipedia becoming slowly a non trust worthy place for non bias information 88.9.84.27 (talk) 01:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Khelif paragraph

The whole paragraph about Khelif is factually incorrect. I tried to correct it already when his sex was no certain, but activists immediately rolled the update with no factual backing. Now his sex was determined. A member of Khelif's own team, doctor Georges Cazorla, confirmed that he has XY chromosomes and a male-typical level of testosterone: [3]https://www.lepoint.fr/sport/exclusif-jo-2024-imane-khelif-a-ete-aneantie-de-decouvrir-d-un-seul-coup-qu-elle-pourrait-ne-pas-etre-une-fille-09-08-2024-2567609_26.php

This automatically means that Imane Khelif is male. This issue is about sport rules - discussions about "gender" are irrelevant here. The sporting rules care only about his SEX, and he is now confirmed to be male. It is not relevant what he identifies as. It is not relevant what his country records his sex as. The only relevant fact is his biological sex. He might have some disorder of sexual development that would influence how his external genitalia developed, but that makes no difference to his sex - he is male.

As a result of postmodern activists' disregard for reality and ability to overrun wikipedia edits, this article is non-factual and misinforms the reader.

I call moderators to apply factual corrections and lock the edits to prevent further misinformation spreading.

Thank you 109.81.123.11 (talk) 15:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

activists immediately rolled the update what does that make you?

Anyway, feel free to engage in this discussion. M.Bitton (talk) 16:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Leaving aside the factual claims about chromosomes and hormones for a second, Khelif is a woman. She is legally a woman and self-identifies as a woman, making her a woman. It is Wikipedia policy to therefore refer to her as a woman. We won't be changing the article to misgender her (again, separate to anything about chromosomes and hormones), and it would be appreciated if you could avoid doing so here on the talk page too. We have trans, nonbinary and gender-nonconforming editors in the Wikipedia community, and deliberate misgendering of public figures in discussions is not conducive to making this place a welcoming environment for everyone. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Khelif and Lin Yu-ting sections

I have removed niche terms like cis-gender and added clarifications from the IBA as to the nature of the gender tests and new IBA gender definitions, which the IBA have finally managed to clarify. We should endeavour to not use terms like cisgender women, because these terms are not in common parlance and do not actually relate to the question. The questions and controversy are not that of trans athletes but athletes with DSD like Caster Semenya. I left in that they were both assigned female at birth, because this clarifies to people that this is not a transgender issue but a genetic aberration. The existing sections were tbh bias, Viper I know you are trying hard, but you (or perhaps someone else) presented the language and quotes to make the IBA look like they had not really done tests or that such tests are not possible and did not present the fact that meeting the IOC gender criteria requires no testing at all and primarily just accepts the athletes sponsor boxing associations decision. I have added , because it is important that the IOC has said they specifically DO NOT WANT SEX TO DETERMINE GENDER in the Olympics. This is very important because the IOC is not arguing that the 4 separate gender tests the IBA conducted in two different labs were not correct or valid, but that the new IBA gender guidelines are not acceptable to them. There seems to be substantial effort to discredit the tests themselves as being fake, which would require quite a large conspiracy from multiple groups, rather than focus on the fact that the IBA and IOC do not agree on gender eligibility criteria. Liger404 (talk) 07:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)