Talk:Intellectualization

Unconscious conflict

"reasoning is used to block confrontation with an unconscious conflict" I think it would be good if the article elaborated on what sort of unconscious conflict this would tend to be, or what it must be. The impression I get from the article is that the conflict is an emotional conflict with vocabulary used to described one's emotions. The conflict is that they wish to express strong emotions through using emotionally heavy terminology, but instead pick less common more analytical words which their unconscious has not attached as much strong emotion to, so that when they describe it, they are able to keep a clear head?

I would like to know if there has been any research on the rationality of temporary intellectualization, because it seems like a good way to attain objectivity or get back on track. Moreso, the problem would be with people who are unable to escape from intellectualizing their vocabularies because this would keep them from expressing emotions at appropriate times needed to heal unconscious trauma or release pent-up feelings. Tyciol (talk) 22:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference merging

1/4 and 2/3 direct to the same reference, I know there is a way to refer to the same reference from multiple locations in an article but I don't know how to script this, so if someone could do this we can shave 2 lines. Tyciol (talk) 22:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Examples

"A person who is heavily in debt builds a complex spreadsheet of how long it would take to repay using different payment options and interest rates." A person who is heavily in debt decides to make a rational informed decision? No evidence of intellectualization, unless they are taking this action instead of paying the debt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk) 00:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the description overall doesn't make sense, as the intro states it is similar to rationalization, while the description, along with most of the examples, make it sound more like the Class IV Suppression in which one puts emotion aside to make logical decisions. The cancer patient example is the only instance that I can see where I think they were going with this. But otherwise it seems to be actually a very appropriate response to consider things purely logically when making decisions. Hardly a neurotic behavior. Unless this is just another instance of Freud not making sense (possible). But I think the idea was that it was supposed to imply that the person in question is necessarily emotionally stressed by the given event, and they are only looking at the logical aspects as to avoid dealing with their emotional stress. However, the description and most of the examples seems to be saying that anytime someone treats a situation purely logically, then they are engaging in neurotic behavior. It seems to assume that any person must necessarily be bottling up emotions if they are doing this, but that isnt necessarily the case. So if what I stated is correct, the description and examples should better indicate that this refers specifically to situations in which the person is emotionally distressed and is focusing only on the logical aspects as to avoid their emotions, not cases in which someone is simply handling a situation logically, as that's generally the best way to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.231.146.68 (talk) 19:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, even the cancer patient's reaction is not a good example. For instance, there are forms of breast cancer (DCIS) that when discovered in stage zero have a prognosis with a 10yr disease free survival of about 98%. Good to know before you get all scared and hopeless. Lova Falk talk 20:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Isolation vs Intellectualization

"A comparison sometimes made is that between isolation and intellectualization. In the former, we repress the thought but not the feeling - we might feel anxious without knowing why, for example."

This is flat-out wrong; isolation, as with intellectualization, involves suppressing the emotional response to a thought. Look at Wikipedia's own page for it. I'm changing this part in the article. 96.18.69.186 (talk) 06:03, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Intellectualization according to Freud

"Intellectualization is one of Freud's original defense mechanisms." This is incorrect. Freud did not mention intellectualization. E. Graham Howe introduced the term, but Anna Freud was the first person to use the term in regard to a defence mechanism. . I'm correcting this bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.32.222 (talk) 16:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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