Talk:Inna Derusova

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The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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Inna Derusova with her Defender of the Motherland Medal

• ... that Russian media accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova (pictured) after she had died? Source: https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220315-a-pre-recorded-video-the-pro-russian-hoax-suggesting-that-volodymyr-zelensky-has-left-ukraine "Russian media outlets, including Russia Today, are falsely claiming that the video of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's visit to a Kyiv hospital on March 13 was recorded last month, fuelling speculation that he has fled the country... According to them, the video could not have been shot in March because the woman accompanying the president is believed to be Inna Derusova, a military nurse who died on February 26.... The woman is actually Tatyana Ostashchenko, commander of the Medical Service of the Ukrainian Armed Forces."
  • ALT1: ... that Inna Derusova was the first woman to be awarded Hero of Ukraine posthumously? Source: https://fakty.ua/398192-vpervye-zvanie-geroya-ukrainy-posmertno-prisvoeno-zhencshine "Вперше звання Героя України посмертно присвоєно жінці - For the first time, the title of Hero of Ukraine was posthumously awarded to a woman"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/U.S. support for Saudi-led operations in Yemen
  • Comment: First proposal is possibly more "hooky" but doesn't give away the main reason for notability, second is basically the reason for notability.

  If the image caption is too long, we can go with "Inna Derusova with medal", "Inna Derusova 2021/22", or even just "Inna Derusova"

Created by GRuban (talk) and Sdkb (talk). Nominated by GRuban (talk) at 19:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC).

• Alt 1 is better per notability. The first DYK text is unacceptable as written because it fails to point out that the accusation was false, and sounds like it’s still undetermined. —Michael Z. 16:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

  I admit I don't like the modern Trump-reaction style of hitting the readers over the head with "false, false, false, you morons, false", especially when we're trying to draw them in to reading the article. I think "accused" and "appeared" are strong enough implications. But times do change, and I may be a dinosaur in giving the reader credit for intelligence, and falsely was in my co-author's original suggestion, so if the reviewer prefers, here is ALT2: ... that Russian media falsely accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova (pictured) after she had died? same source --GRuban (talk) 11:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

  Interesting life on fine sources, foreign sources accepted AGF. Striking the original, as ALT1 is more about her merits. I wouldn't mind if you added a bit to that hook about the medal shown, to avoid confusion with the posthumous award. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Wrong date of birth?

A new editor, Derusovavaleriia, just tried to change her birth date, with summary (translated from Russian) "Wrong date of birth. I am her niece." I reverted, but on translating the edit summary, it seems plausible. Can we double check if the source for the current date is reliable, and if there are any other sources listing a different date? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)