Talk:Inequality in the workplace
Social Inequality vs. Management Structure
[edit]"There is usually a hierarchy that exists in the workplace in which managers, leaders and executives are paid higher wages and have more authority and prestige than those below them."
I could be wrong, but I don't think this is the kind of inequality that this article is supposed to be about. To me that seems more like the basic structure of any profit-based organization (those in higher positions get paid more), rather than social inequality, which this article seems to be about. RaInBoWxDaShX (talk)
"Causes" Section
[edit]The section seems to only concern the causes of gender inequality. Racial inequality is not discussed, as it is above. Also, inequality between members of different social classes within the same workforce is not mentioned at all in the entire article, besides in the opening paragraph. RaInBoWxDaShX (talk)
Dominance of Women in Humanities
[edit]The 'fields of study' section states that 'Women have always dominated the humanities, ...'. This is simply incorrect. Leaving aside the question as to whether women really can be said to dominate the humanities even today, it patently was not the case in the past. How, for instance, can women be said to have 'dominated' when none were allowed into university, and the overwhelming majority of secondary-school teachers were male, for all subjects? It would be better to say something like 'Although women have been relatively successful in achieving parity in the Humanities...' Ben1983 (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Cut out of the article
[edit]I cut out the following text out of the article. There are too many problems with this text:
- It seems to be written without consideration to the rest of the article, as a very short essay about gender discrimination in the workplace.
- The source information is incomplete. "According to Bhoje" means which article? or book? which journal? year?
- Part of the text is copypasted without even mentioning the source. For instance, the sentence: "It involves a reinforcement of behavior and attitude on the basis of traditionally stereotypical roles people have in the society we live in" was copied literally from http://www.buzzle.com/articles/sexism-gender-discrimination.html (published 2008)
So, if anyone feels like working with this text, please do so, and maybe parts of this text can be re-added to the article. Lova Falk talk 10:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
First issue: gender discrimination in the workplace: What is gender discrimination? According to Bhoje, “gender discrimination basically means the bias treatment of a group or person due to their gender or Sex”(p 1). It involves a reinforcement of behavior and attitude on the basis of traditionally stereotypical roles people have in the society we live in. The underlying reality or notion is that “Women's are thought to be Inferior to Men” (Bhoje p.1). Sex discrimination against women in the workplace is one of the major problems women have, and it occurs when females undergo unfair and unlawful treatment in their workplace. In 2004, surveys conducted among the top 250 law firms in the United States, included a detailed questionnaire about women achieving partner status at Big Five accounting firms, showed only 10% of women achieve partner status at these big firms (Falcioni p.1). Additionally, Magallon pointed out that regardless of the long way women have come, gender discrimination against women still exists (p 3). Therefore, in recent years, many writers have questioned the idea behind this phenomenon; so is it a lack of skills, or is it something else that holds women back? There have been many high profile allegations of discrimination leveled against organizations within the last several years (Morris, Bonamici and Neering, 2005). For example, Nadler and Stockdale quoted Lewis who suggested gender difference in pay rates are due to human capital variables such as the level of education, the experience, the carrier choice or the work schedule rather than discrimination. On the other hand, Nadler and Stockdale rejected Lewis’s idea and they indicated that the U.S. General Accountability office (2003) found that there is still remained wage gap between men and women even after accounting for these human capital factor Lewis included (p.282). Another cause of concern is that descriptive stereotyping shapes the expectations people form about men and women in the workplace and provides fuel for gender discrimination to occur. For example, when women applying for a job for which they have excellent qualifications and the necessary skills to succeed at the jobs, a majority of the time the employers who are doing the hiring prefer man to women. Also, women often get told that they are laid off or fired due to company cutbacks or reorganization, even though a man in the same job with less seniority than the woman gets to keep the job. According to Magallon, “there is a common idea that people firmly believe, that women are not suitable for upper division positions because they do not have the characteristics suitable for those positions” (p.1). Not only the public believe in that common idea, some researchers also showed in their study that women perceive themselves less suitable for high positions because the perceived notion that they are not associated with masculine characteristics (Basak p.58). Magallon stated that society accepted for a long time the fact that leadership and power are traits commonly associated with the male sex. However, Falcioni disagreed with this thought and that good skills and the willingness to work hard are the measures to become a good manager, not gender (p.2). Workplace discrimination is not only illegal but is a real problem that hurts real people. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commiaion enforces the law that prohibits gender discrimination. The full impact of gender discrimination is felt not only by women, but also by organizations that may be losing out on the skills women bring into the workplace.
POV
[edit]This reads like it was written by a die hard femanist this needs to be rewritten or dramatically altered. This is in no way neutral as it shows only women as the victims. --Youngdrake (talk) 11:55, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Women Versus Men in high paying physical jobs.
[edit]Why is this not addressed in the article? Many high pay jobs women are almost non existant in such as oil rig workers. Instead women primarily focus on "easier" jobs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngdrake (talk • contribs) 12:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)